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01-21-2019, 02:20 PM

#11

RonnyK320

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Originally Posted by todhog2

Four days off is gone and we got nothing in return. Congrats bendo, you really took us to the woodshed on this deal.

Commuters will probably keep it, and those of us who live in base will probably waive it (like me to get weekends off). I don't really see the problem? The way it is now is pretty much a win/win for everyone.

01-21-2019, 02:34 PM

#12

Judge Smails

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Originally Posted by RonnyK320

Commuters will keep it until they see they're getting phucked out of a better line by waiving to 3 (or less).

01-21-2019, 03:58 PM

#13

lowandslow

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Originally Posted by RonnyK320

Except that the company wanted it, ie saw value in it. Something useful in negotiating.

01-21-2019, 04:10 PM

#14

Tranquility

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If you’re commuting on reserve, i.e. the most junior portion of our group, 4-days off is invaluable! How frequently is this pilot group going to throw the junior under the bus??

01-21-2019, 04:14 PM

#15

SG1159

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Originally Posted by Tranquility

If you’re commuting on reserve, i.e. the most junior portion of our group, 4-days off is invaluable! How frequently is this pilot group going to throw the junior under the bus??

It’s not goin away- who is being thrown under the bus??

01-21-2019, 04:36 PM

#16

Flightcap

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I don't really understand the outrage. If you want 4 days off you are going to get it. If you value a particular schedule more than the 4 days off you are going to get it. As a junior bidder the 4 days off was the first thing I looked forward to getting rid of with PBS. Having a mandatory 4 days off would probably make me unable to hold a line.

01-21-2019, 06:47 PM

#17

DickBurns

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I thought we could pull the plug on the waiver in 6 months.

01-21-2019, 07:29 PM

#18

symbian simian

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Originally Posted by DickBurns

I thought we could pull the plug on the waiver in 6 months.

"Neither the TA nor the PBS LOA modifies the four day off language. The PBS LOA allows individual pilots the option to waive this requirement for a 6-month trial basis. The MEC will decide whether or not to keep this option."

01-21-2019, 07:54 PM

#19

beech_nut

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So if 50% of the pilot group waives the 4 days off and you aren't near the top of the seniority list won't you have to waive it also to avoid getting a crap schedule? If this is true haven't we given away one of our big bargaining chips for free?

01-21-2019, 08:09 PM

#20

onedolla

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Originally Posted by beech_nut

so far the response to this from the trainers is something along the line that people edit their schedules to "waive" 4 days off in IOT and therefore it's ok because they'll end up doing it to themselves anyways.

my problem is that it kind of avoids the question of "are very junior line holders forced to waive their 4 off to get a line since senior guys waived theirs?" though.