Happy signing day
03-02-2019, 05:15 AM
#11
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Originally Posted by TexBubba
. But we have to remember where we are in the lineup and they did ask for it and unfortunately it didn’t happen. Sux. .
03-02-2019, 05:59 AM
#12
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Position: A320
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I'm happy with what we achieved in the contract. When I hired on 185 was the top and I still took the job. Not dropping reserve days besides MFV post PBS sucks but I'll live with it. Being number 16000 at Delta or anywhere else does not appeal to me at this point. Maybe we can improve reserve flexibility on the next contract.
03-02-2019, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by airsense00
I'm happy with what we achieved in the contract. When I hired on 185 was the top and I still took the job. Not dropping reserve days besides MFV post PBS sucks but I'll live with it. Being number 16000 at Delta or anywhere else does not appeal to me at this point. Maybe we can improve reserve flexibility on the next contract.
03-03-2019, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Is there a difference between being number 16000 at a legacy and number 2200 at spirit? Maybe my math ain’t good but that seniority spends the same I reckon.
03-03-2019, 10:06 AM
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Exactly. A CA here starting over at Delta would take 6 years just to break even, assuming 3 year upgrade on the 717 in New York. Yes a 16000 seniority number spends the same as a 2200 number, but for growth it is much easier to double the 2200 number. There are other factors to consider besides wages when choosing a company like retirement numbers, personality cultures, base locations, work rules. With a new airplane order a spirit 2200 number could easier rise up the list faster than a 16000 number at Delta.
03-03-2019, 12:11 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by airsense00
Exactly. A CA here starting over at Delta would take 6 years just to break even, assuming 3 year upgrade on the 717 in New York. Yes a 16000 seniority number spends the same as a 2200 number, but for growth it is much easier to double the 2200 number. There are other factors to consider besides wages when choosing a company like retirement numbers, personality cultures, base locations, work rules. With a new airplane order a spirit 2200 number could easier rise up the list faster than a 16000 number at Delta.
If I want to rent my place out on Airbnb for a month and just travel then I can totally do that. There are a lot of pilots out there intent on chasing the carrot in search for that different shade of brown grass on the other side, and to them I say be my guest.
03-03-2019, 02:10 PM
#18
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I agree with most of what’s been said. Let’s just not use it as an excuse to be compensated lower. What we got was a nice win for us but not to much to be proud of. That aside, let all enjoy the extra couple of bucks we got yesterday.
03-03-2019, 03:33 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
I agree with most of what’s been said. Let’s just not use it as an excuse to be compensated lower. What we got was a nice win for us but not to much to be proud of. That aside, let all enjoy the extra couple of bucks we got yesterday.
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03-03-2019, 09:41 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by airsense00
Maybe we can improve reserve flexibility on the next contract.
We had good reserve flexibility. I understand the issue with checker boarding but we gave up too much. We should have found a much better middle ground instead of just screwing reserves. When PBS is fully implemented, reserves will lose essentially any ability to change their schedule outside what they can bid.
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