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DrDHD 10-17-2019 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by livinthedream89 (Post 2906472)
Agree on the size, I’m 6’2 and a medium fits well. Also, I’m probably returning the liner. I don’t think it was worth the money as the jacket is warm enough without it.

Wow 6’2 and medium is the size to go with?
What type of build are you? I’m 6’0 and was going to get the large but now I’m not so sure. Haven’t been in DTW in half a year to try them on.

onedolla 10-17-2019 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by DrDHD (Post 2906929)
Wow 6’2 and medium is the size to go with?
What type of build are you? I’m 6’0 and was going to get the large but now I’m not so sure. Haven’t been in DTW in half a year to try them on.

It's not a fitted jacket at all. You'll be swimming in that L unless you're a bigger than average guy, or prefer a baggier fit. It seems to me they designed the fit (torso) of it around a person wearing the insulator inner jacket.

Cefiro 10-17-2019 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by DrDHD (Post 2906929)
Wow 6’2 and medium is the size to go with?
What type of build are you? I’m 6’0 and was going to get the large but now I’m not so sure. Haven’t been in DTW in half a year to try them on.

I’m 6’2 and the medium fits well. Remember these are technically sized for the inner liner. So, they’re pretty big.

Omniscient 10-17-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2906916)
Which is why I'll keep wearing my $30 NF look alike.

You mean you will continue to not comply and look unprofessional.

Got it.

DrDHD 10-17-2019 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by onedolla (Post 2906964)
It's not a fitted jacket at all. You'll be swimming in that L unless you're a bigger than average guy, or prefer a baggier fit. It seems to me they designed the fit (torso) of it around a person wearing the insulator inner jacket.

Thanks guys! Ordered the medium!!

putzin 10-17-2019 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2906996)
You mean you will continue to not comply and look unprofessional.

Got it.

Lol, yes, my tailored pants and $200 shoes look horrible. You don't need to see my epaulets or ID.

Keep talking and I'll switch to a green fluorescent, goose down jacket. 🤪

putzin 10-17-2019 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2906928)
Or you could wear the blazer or leather which are approved and paid for by the company.

When the weather is appropriate, I do. However the company is allowing an intermediate jacket now and I'm not paying for it.

You gave away enough of our contract by supporting the last NC and plenty of us went along with it. Maybe you would like us to fly for free next so we can "help the company out"? You remind me of JA.

Qotsaautopilot 10-17-2019 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2907067)
When the weather is appropriate, I do. However the company is allowing an intermediate jacket now and I'm not paying for it.

You gave away enough of our contract by supporting the last NC and plenty of us went along with it. Maybe you would like us to fly for free next so we can "help the company out"? You remind me of JA.

The intermediate jacket is a certain brand and has epaulets and wings required.

For the record, I voted against the contract. Uniforms happen to be a pet peeve. It’s a uniform so we look uniform and like pilots. If it were up to me there would be one option not three and heavy enforcement since we cannot seem to police ourselves.

Omniscient 10-17-2019 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2907067)
When the weather is appropriate, I do. However the company is allowing an intermediate jacket now and I'm not paying for it.

You gave away enough of our contract by supporting the last NC and plenty of us went along with it. Maybe you would like us to fly for free next so we can "help the company out"? You remind me of JA.

So you will drop $200 on shoes but won’t buy a blazer or approved jacket. Got it.

putzin 10-17-2019 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2907155)
So you will drop $200 on shoes but won’t buy a blazer or approved jacket. Got it.

Has the company ever provided shoes?

I might even switch to black tennis shoes just to watch whine about it on APC.

*Ha, well how about that, a brand new HQ! Keep buying your own jacket though, do your part! 😂

howzitchina 10-17-2019 01:34 PM

I only see the Blazer, but not the Leather jacket on https://spirit.hpidirectstore.net/

Anyone know where to look?

Omniscient 10-17-2019 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by howzitchina (Post 2907313)
I only see the Blazer, but not the Leather jacket on https://spirit.hpidirectstore.net/

Anyone know where to look?

You can buy a leather from anywhere but I believe Perrone Leather is the one the company has an arrangement with. If you buy a leather from another provider, make sure the wing stud holes on the jacket fit the leather jacket wings that the uniform provider sells... I would contact your pilot case coordinator and they can give you the order sheet info.

IF you want to buy a leather without payroll deduct, I suggest you do so because Ive heard Perrone can take a long while...Like, next winter stuff..

FLYBOYMATTHEW 10-17-2019 01:46 PM

They have to raise the cow, slaughter the cow, dress the cow, tan the leather...this stuff takes time.

Omniscient 10-17-2019 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2907324)
They have to raise the cow, slaughter the cow, dress the cow, tan the leather...this stuff takes time.

Haha...formal education for the cow as well

MCDUmanipulator 10-17-2019 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2907285)
Has the company ever provided shoes?

I might even switch to black tennis shoes just to watch whine about it on APC.

*Ha, well how about that, a brand new HQ! Keep buying your own jacket though, do your part! 😂

You think all those business professionals out there have their clothes paid for? Stop acting like an entitled millennial and dress professional.

tomgoodman 10-17-2019 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2907324)
They have to raise the cow, slaughter the cow, dress the cow, tan the leather...this stuff takes time.

Sounds like a Moo point. :D

Conquistador27 10-17-2019 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 2907418)
Sounds like a Moo point. :D

Is that like a cows opinion?
😂

putzin 10-18-2019 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2907355)
You think all those business professionals out there have their clothes paid for? Stop acting like an entitled millennial and dress professional.

Apples and oranges, MCDU. You're
hired help whose wages are based on circumstances not skill set. That's why your pay doubled, not because you magically became a better pilot.

Clothes do not make a professional, they make an impression. If you need to make an impression to those looking for the cheapest seat, feel free.

Your peers have their uniforms paid for, so should we. Enough with the it's better than my regional, this is the most money I've ever made, mentality. It's this attitude that gave us an industry bottom contract.

Good day

MCDUmanipulator 10-18-2019 06:43 AM

Dress like a discounted airline pilot, get treated like a discounted airline pilot.

Qotsaautopilot 10-18-2019 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2907824)
Apples and oranges, MCDU. You're
hired help whose wages are based on circumstances not skill set. That's why your pay doubled, not because you magically became a better pilot.

Clothes do not make a professional, they make an impression. If you need to make an impression to those looking for the cheapest seat, feel free.

Your peers have their uniforms paid for, so should we. Enough with the it's better than my regional, this is the most money I've ever made, mentality. It's this attitude that gave us an industry bottom contract.

Good day

I agree with your last couple sentences but you’re off on this. Wear the approved uniform and wear it well. Don’t want to pay for the Karbon that’s fine. Wear the blazer or the leather which are paid for. Don’t do your own thing just because you feel like it.

Btw United doesn’t pay for uniforms but they do pay for all dry cleaning

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-18-2019 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2907833)
Dress like a discounted airline pilot, get treated like a discounted airline pilot.

We prefer to be referred to as a Value Airline Pilot. Thanks.

putzin 10-18-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2907833)
Dress like a discounted airline pilot, get treated like a discounted airline pilot.

I like your enthusiasm!

putzin 10-18-2019 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2907844)
I agree with your last couple sentences but you’re off on this. Wear the approved uniform and wear it well. Don’t want to pay for the Karbon that’s fine. Wear the blazer or the leather which are paid for. Don’t do your own thing just because you feel like it.

Btw United doesn’t pay for uniforms but they do pay for all dry cleaning

Uniforms are the least of our worries and I just won't get behind a push for such when we have massive other problems. Especially when we have those making 30-50% less than our peers. I'll never encourage anyone to pick up more company slack than we already do. You've made your point, I've made mine, obviously we differ in opinion.

Qotsaautopilot 10-18-2019 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by putzin (Post 2908251)
Uniforms are the least of our worries and I just won't get behind a push for such when we have massive other problems. Especially when we have those making 30-50% less than our peers. I'll never encourage anyone to pick up more company slack than we already do. You've made your point, I've made mine, obviously we differ in opinion.

I got you and agree. I don’t think wearing the approved paid for uniform is picking up slack. You’re talking about deliberately not wearing the uniform just to make a point.

Irishblackbird 10-19-2019 07:24 AM

Are sweaters approved to wear? A Cut Above makes a nice uniform sweater that is warm and comfortable.

Omniscient 10-19-2019 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by Irishblackbird (Post 2908693)
Are sweaters approved to wear? A Cut Above makes a nice uniform sweater that is warm and comfortable.

They are not.

nkbux 10-20-2019 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2907844)
I agree with your last couple sentences but you’re off on this. Wear the approved uniform and wear it well. Don’t want to pay for the Karbon that’s fine. Wear the blazer or the leather which are paid for. Don’t do your own thing just because you feel like it.

Btw United doesn’t pay for uniforms but they do pay for all dry cleaning

United pilots dont pay a dime for dry cleaning....get the dry cleaning done, keep the receipt, magically enter it into they’re online system and voila.... free dry cleaning...and I’d venture to guess less than 10% of our group actually pus to get dry cleaning done and cares about they’re appearance to the flying public

FNGFO 10-20-2019 10:24 AM

Why don’t we maybe have new hires fit for and provided with uniforms before we jump straight to free laundering of any uniform they can lay their hands on.

symbian simian 10-20-2019 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909338)
United pilots dont pay a dime for dry cleaning....get the dry cleaning done, keep the receipt, magically enter it into they’re online system and voila.... free dry cleaning...and I’d venture to guess less than 10% of our group actually pus to get dry cleaning done and cares about they’re appearance to the flying public

sorry, but they're?

nkbux 10-20-2019 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2909357)
sorry, but they're?

No apologies nessecary...your absolutely right...

Tranquility 10-20-2019 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909366)
No apologies nessecary...your absolutely right...

Arghhhhh!!! Please tell me that was in jest.

Qotsaautopilot 10-20-2019 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909338)
United pilots dont pay a dime for dry cleaning....get the dry cleaning done, keep the receipt, magically enter it into they’re online system and voila.... free dry cleaning...and I’d venture to guess less than 10% of our group actually pus to get dry cleaning done and cares about they’re appearance to the flying public

That’s what I said. United pays for all dry cleaning but not uniforms.

flyingpuma1 10-20-2019 01:06 PM

New Approved Jacket
 

Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 2907833)
Dress like a discounted airline pilot, get treated like a discounted airline pilot.





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symbian simian 10-20-2019 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909366)
No apologies nessecary...your absolutely right...

I know my right's, do you know you'res

symbian simian 10-20-2019 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 2909389)
Arghhhhh!!! Please tell me that was in jest.

He should of quit while he was ahead.

Omniscient 10-20-2019 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909338)
United pilots dont pay a dime for dry cleaning....get the dry cleaning done, keep the receipt, magically enter it into they’re online system and voila.... free dry cleaning...and I’d venture to guess less than 10% of our group actually pus to get dry cleaning done and cares about they’re appearance to the flying public


But NorthFace don’t need dry cleaning. Half our pilots wouldn’t even need it for their north face.

dutchroller 10-20-2019 03:43 PM

New Approved Jacket
 

Originally Posted by FNGFO (Post 2909344)
Why don’t we maybe have new hires fit for and provided with uniforms before we jump straight to free laundering of any uniform they can lay their hands on.



It’s not going to happen. We pilots eat our own young.


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ASAPsafetyGUY 10-21-2019 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909366)
No apologies nessecary...your absolutely right...

Killing us man. First it’s their v they’re and now your? Lmbo.

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-21-2019 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2909357)
sorry, but they're?

How about the dramatically long compound sentence with superfluous periods on his ellipses. Then there’s no period at the end. Ahhhhhh grammar police! Arrest this guy!

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-21-2019 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2909366)
No apologies nessecary...your absolutely right...

And then there’s the word necessary. I can go on and on, but I’ll just stop.


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