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Halon1211 10-21-2019 02:37 PM

Ahh the grammar police is out in full force today. How seriously can you take grammar and spelling errors on an online chat forum?

Tranquility 10-21-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2909996)
Ahh the grammar police is out in full force today. How seriously can you take grammar and spelling errors on an online chat forum?

You can take it super cereal...

Excelsior!!!

symbian simian 10-22-2019 06:53 AM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2909996)
Ahh the grammar police is out in full force today. How seriously can you take grammar and spelling errors on an online chat forum?

Honestly, to me it is the same as a guy showing up in Dockers and an LL Bean jacket. Hard to take you serious if you can't be bothered to check grammar and spelling. That's just me.

FLYBOYMATTHEW 10-22-2019 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2910312)
Honestly, to me it is the same as a guy showing up in Dockers and an LL Bean jacket. Hard to take you serious if you can't be bothered to check grammar and spelling. That's just me.

It's hard to take you seriously, that sentence requires an adverb.

nkbux 10-22-2019 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2910312)
Honestly, to me it is the same as a guy showing up in Dockers and an LL Bean jacket. Hard to take you serious if you can't be bothered to check grammar and spelling. That's just me.

Believe me I am not the dockers and LL Bean guy... but I also don’t spend any useful time in my life preaching to co workers about grammar... kinda low on my list of priorities... and I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to sleep tonight if you can’t take me serious...I didn’t capitalize “dockers”...take a deep breath

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-22-2019 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2910493)
Believe me I am not the dockers and LL Bean guy... but I also don’t spend any useful time in my life preaching to co workers about grammar... kinda low on my list of priorities... and I’m pretty sure I’ll be able to sleep tonight if you can’t take me serious...I didn’t capitalize “dockers”...take a deep breath

Soooo is there supposed to be or not supposed to be a space following an ellipsis? Oh wait, I see. You’re using an ellipsis as a substitute for a period so you can run on a sentence indefinitely and not have to capitalize anything. Nice. Let me call Webster’s and have them update the American lexicon standard lololololol.

Bruh I’m just bored and messing with ya. You know that right?

symbian simian 10-23-2019 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW (Post 2910415)
It's hard to take you seriously, that sentence requires an adverb.

Take it easy....
(The eagles)

nkbux 10-23-2019 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2910691)
Soooo is there supposed to be or not supposed to be a space following an ellipsis? Oh wait, I see. You’re using an ellipsis as a substitute for a period so you can run on a sentence indefinitely and not have to capitalize anything. Nice. Let me call Webster’s and have them update the American lexicon standard lololololol.

Bruh I’m just bored and messing with ya. You know that right?

I know... hey btw we just ordered more Airbi... let’s all drink and be merry

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-23-2019 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by nkbux (Post 2911340)
I know... hey btw we just ordered more Airbi... let’s all drink and be merry

yea...but they say upgrade...is up to 6 years now with t...he addition of new planes, :)

Flightcap 10-24-2019 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by ASAPsafetyGUY (Post 2911579)
yea...but they say upgrade...is up to 6 years now with t...he addition of new planes, :)

Dude you're gonna give him a seizure. Well done.

B200 Hawk 10-24-2019 06:50 AM

Got a Medium for sale, only used for 1 3 day. Will drop some $$$ off the list price. PM me if interested.

(Jacket is nice, just thought I was a bigger person :()

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-24-2019 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 2911713)
Got a Medium for sale, only used for 1 3 day. Will drop some $$$ off the list price. PM me if interested.

(Jacket is nice, just thought I was a bigger person :()

I'm certainly too fat for it.

Stomper 10-24-2019 08:41 AM

I’ve got a brand new large size, regular length Karbon with the liner for sale if anyone is considering buying one.
PM me if interested.

DrDHD 10-24-2019 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 2911713)
Got a Medium for sale, only used for 1 3 day. Will drop some $$$ off the list price. PM me if interested.

(Jacket is nice, just thought I was a bigger person :()

Was the size too big or small? Curious your size

dotslash 10-24-2019 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2910312)
Honestly, to me it is the same as a guy showing up in Dockers and an LL Bean jacket. Hard to take you serious if you can't be bothered to check grammar and spelling. That's just me.

Speaking of uniform standard, on behalf of all of us that have to sit in that seat to work, please stop the madness.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-4T4QBSxA/

B200 Hawk 10-24-2019 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by DrDHD (Post 2911807)
Was the size too big or small? Curious your size

5’9 160 slightly too big. 95% of the time I’m a M.

Rocinante 10-24-2019 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by symbian simian (Post 2906529)
From CP, and I can't find the original email:

Jackets: Jackets are optional during warm weather. At the moment, the only approved optional uniform jacket is the Perrone Leather Jacket.

Base Chief Pilots are not the “uniform police;” however, they have been instructed to make routine inquiries for wildly outrageous uniform decisions.

We are currently in the process of sourcing a new uniform. We still have a good deal of time ahead of us before this occurs. You should continue to order from the current HPI uniform selection.

Many have asked about the Karbon jacket option. Although this is not an official uniform piece, you may elect to wear it, provided the approved epaulets and wings are worn with it. The Velcro name tag should not be worn. We are working on making this an official uniform selection; but do not expect this to happen in the immediate future. I’d like to thank the uniform committee Ryan Pachofsky and Jessica Meyer for their passion for appearance and professionalism. Thanks for serving our pilot group.

So to be compliant, just get some extra uniform epaulettes to attach to the shoulders? The image preview doesn't look like it has the straps to attach epaulettes to (passenten, learned a new word today). And is there a good place to attach wings?

Also, thanks for all the sizing info.

DrDHD 10-24-2019 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by dotslash (Post 2911931)
Speaking of uniform standard, on behalf of all of us that have to sit in that seat to work, please stop the madness.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-4T4QBSxA/

Guess the excitement of the airplane order got FO’s spending G’s.

DrDHD 10-24-2019 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 2911941)
5’9 160 slightly too big. 95% of the time I’m a M.

Are you going to try and order the small or just not order one. Appreciate the reply!!!

B200 Hawk 10-24-2019 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by DrDHD (Post 2911999)
Are you going to try and order the small or just not order one. Appreciate the reply!!!

Probably will order the small.

Qotsaautopilot 10-24-2019 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by dotslash (Post 2911931)
Speaking of uniform standard, on behalf of all of us that have to sit in that seat to work, please stop the madness.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-4T4QBSxA/

What’s the context of this photo?

Cefiro 10-25-2019 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by dotslash (Post 2911931)
Speaking of uniform standard, on behalf of all of us that have to sit in that seat to work, please stop the madness.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-4T4QBSxA/

No wonder the cockpits are so dirty.

GWY320 10-25-2019 06:09 AM

Crumb buster to the rescue.

HardPassSpa 10-25-2019 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by B200 Hawk (Post 2912164)
Probably will order the small.



So I’m about the same size as you. I’m 5’9, 175lbs. I just got the small and it fits perfect.


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william0203usa 10-25-2019 08:20 AM

The $20 dollars for the "TAG" is just a piece of black cardboard to attach the wings. it neither comes with your name nor the airline name. https://karbon2.myshopify.com/collec...18559295389777 Badge comes blank...

GrumpyCaptain 10-26-2019 09:31 AM

Are there no returns if it doesn’t fit? I’ve heard rumors they are in this chief pilot or that chief pilot office to try on. Have yet to be able to do that.

Stomper 10-26-2019 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 2912974)
Are there no returns if it doesn’t fit? I’ve heard rumors they are in this chief pilot or that chief pilot office to try on. Have yet to be able to do that.

Karbon will take returns within 30 days as long as the tags are not removed.

I unfortunately removed the tags and that’s why I’m trying to sell my large/regular.

It’s still for sale for anyone interested.

Omniscient 10-26-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 2912974)
Are there no returns if it doesn’t fit? I’ve heard rumors they are in this chief pilot or that chief pilot office to try on. Have yet to be able to do that.

DTW crewroom has them to try on. I’m glad I did, didn’t like, so made my decision to pass, easier

maximus101100 10-26-2019 11:42 AM

Any other options other than this fancy jacket? I have a black leather jacket from my old gig... didn’t know if that is an option. Class date of December 9th. I’m stoked to be coming to Spirit seems like a lot of good people.

RemoveB4flght 10-26-2019 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by maximus101100 (Post 2913030)
Any other options other than this fancy jacket? I have a black leather jacket from my old gig... didn’t know if that is an option. Class date of December 9th. I’m stoked to be coming to Spirit seems like a lot of good people.

The leather jacket has to be from our approved vendor

Omniscient 10-26-2019 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght (Post 2913035)
The leather jacket has to be from our approved vendor

No it doesn’t. It just has to meet the style approved by the company; wings, epaulettes, tapered bottom. Carol in DTW will verify this. The Perone jacket is mid grade quality and there are other options of better quality and fit that meet the company specifications.

But let’s be honest, every pilot does what they want anyways with uniform and justifies it accordingly.

Halon1211 10-26-2019 02:13 PM

Sorry this is off topic. Seems like Spirit’s website doesn’t have employee travel login anymore. Anyone know where to go to list?

PilotMechanic 10-26-2019 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 2913079)
Sorry this is off topic. Seems like Spirit’s website doesn’t have employee travel login anymore. Anyone know where to go to list?

Teamtravel.spirit.com

ASAPsafetyGUY 10-26-2019 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Omniscient (Post 2913058)
No it doesn’t. It just has to meet the style approved by the company; wings, epaulettes, tapered bottom. Carol in DTW will verify this. The Perone jacket is mid grade quality and there are other options of better quality and fit that meet the company specifications.

But let’s be honest, every pilot does what they want anyways with uniform and justifies it accordingly.

As long as we do it safely and are happy doing it, rock what fits yo. After all, my body tapers outwards.

Halon1211 10-26-2019 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by PilotMechanic (Post 2913085)
Teamtravel.spirit.com

Thanks!

Filler

Judge Smails 10-27-2019 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2907085)
The intermediate jacket is a certain brand and has epaulets and wings required.

There's nothing itermediate about the Karbon if anyone is thinking of ordering it. It's a lot warmer than the leather IMO. It's definitely heavier than your typical North Face or Columbia soft shell.

Qotsaautopilot 10-27-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2913365)
There's nothing itermediate about the Karbon if anyone is thinking of ordering it. It's a lot warmer than the leather IMO. It's definitely heavier than your typical North Face or Columbia soft shell.

Interesting. Is that with our without the liner. I pretty much go from no jacket straight to the leather because my blazer is an ill fitting pos. Was thinking about the Karbon as a shoulder season jacket but if that’s not the case I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing or hopefully get a better blazer when we change uniforms.

I think the northface has a place practically but I for one think a uniform makes us look uniform and presents an image as pilots so it irritates me when guys do their own thing. I thought the Karbon was a good option for compromise as long as it’s worn with wings and epaulets just like the leather.

You never see a double breasted ocean liner captain at delta saying the single option they are given is not acceptable and instead do their own thing. You don’t have to like the options given but it’s your job to conform.

Judge Smails 10-27-2019 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2913423)
Interesting. Is that with our without the liner. I pretty much go from no jacket straight to the leather because my blazer is an ill fitting pos. Was thinking about the Karbon as a shoulder season jacket but if that’s not the case I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing or hopefully get a better blazer when we change uniforms.

I ordered mine without the liner. It’s overkill unless you’re walking around Minneapolis in January.

Qotsaautopilot 10-27-2019 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 2913437)
I ordered mine without the liner. It’s overkill unless you’re walking around Minneapolis in January.

So without the liner is still very warm and not a shoulder season jacket. Ok well I guess I’ll stick with my leather then

ItnStln 10-27-2019 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Stomper (Post 2911787)
I’ve got a brand new large size, regular length Karbon with the liner for sale if anyone is considering buying one.
PM me if interested.

Is it still available?


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