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Old 05-14-2019 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
I already had to kiss it goodbye to stay off reserve.


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Which is wrong on so many levels...
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Old 05-14-2019 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
Yep jr about 65%


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I would have guessed a better result at 65%. Not trying to be a D. but do you have experience with PBS and have you had someone else look at it? I went over the bid of the guy I was flying with and he definitely was doing it wrong. He used a different PBS in his last company and it was enough to mess it up completely.
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Old 05-14-2019 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
Which is wrong on so many levels...


Agree and I knew it would be bad but I didn’t think it would be this bad (well I kind of did since I voted no but...)


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Old 05-14-2019 | 08:59 AM
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Bottom line is, if you want weekends off, you pretty much have to waive it when the majority of trips are 4-days. I believe it'll be gone in 6 months, and, unfortunately, we did nothing to monetize the loss. It's a shame because we made sacrifices over the previous couple of contracts to keep it, and now we're just giving it away.
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Old 05-14-2019 | 09:02 AM
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Bottom line is, if you want weekends off, you pretty much have to waive it when the majority of trips are 4-days. I believe it'll be gone in 6 months, and, unfortunately, we did nothing to monetize the loss. It's a shame because we made sacrifices over the previous couple of contracts to keep it, and now we're just giving it away.


That still doesn’t work. I waived it and I am working every weekend. At least with line bidding and the 6 on 4 off I could catch a weekend off. Now I can’t if I want to stay off reserve.

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Old 05-14-2019 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingpuma1
That still doesn’t work. I waived it and I am working every weekend. At least with line bidding and the 6 on 4 off I could catch a weekend off. Now I can’t if I want to stay off reserve.

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So much for seniority...
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Old 05-14-2019 | 09:53 AM
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Well, if you're junior enough to have to worry about RSV, weekends off probably won't happen for a while. But doesn't it seem reasonable that senior pilots should be able to have weekends off? Under PBS, at least seniority is relevant. With line bidding, everyone had to take a bite of the same poop sandwich.
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Old 05-14-2019 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYBOYMATTHEW
Well, if you're junior enough to have to worry about RSV, weekends off probably won't happen for a while. But doesn't it seem reasonable that senior pilots should be able to have weekends off? Under PBS, at least seniority is relevant. With line bidding, everyone had to take a bite of the same poop sandwich.
What is a senior pilot? If a guy has to waive a contractual right in order to get something that would go to a Jr pilot otherwise, the system isn't working.
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Old 05-14-2019 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by DickBurns
What is a senior pilot? If a guy has to waive a contractual right in order to get something that would go to a Jr pilot otherwise, the system isn't working.
Senior pilot is a relative term, but it isn't someone trying to avoid reserve. You shouldn't expect to hold weekends off at that relative seniority. The "contractual right" to 4 days off was voted out, and the majority apparently decided that it wasn't worth holding on to. So, it is now your contractual right to waive it. Everyone is playing by the same rules. You could try to make the same argument about any of the waivers usurping seniority, but it just doesn't hold water, it's in the contract the majority voted in. In 6 months the argument will likely be moot. If you don't like it, tell your reps, or ask your scheduling committee for more 3-day trips. Ultimately, who gets to decide if the 4-day waiver sticks? That decision was also waived to the JPWG in this contract.
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Old 05-14-2019 | 10:32 AM
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I was nervous about PBS but based on my award I think it rocks.
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