Some of you must have been keeping way to high of a debt to equity ratio.

Too....

I had enough socked away for 1 year at $40/ hour (then AA’s starting rate) so for $1.50/ less an hour I could make the stretch for just one year. How some people don’t budget for this when considering this career is beyond me. Is it right? Hell no! But c’est la vie...

Are you familiar with Dave Ramsey? This average household in this country is ridiculously in debt.

Did the Money Makeover 5 years ago. Best thing ever. Thankfully I didn’t have too much to dig out of, but man some people who call in... it’s crazy.

I got TBNT. While everyone was qualified I was very shocked by the low experience levels. I don't know if this is a Spirit strategy or if this is representative of who they have applying so I'd encourage all low timers to put their app in.

One can make whatever excuses you want about first year pay but the reality is that ultimately you get - as coworkers - what you as a company are able to recruit. Expecting someone to go through training and the first year taking a $30k cut in pay to NOT affect the quality of the pool you are drawing from is just silly. But expecting that anyone who does go through that to feel strongly that he or she owes any loyalty to the people above who LET him/her be cr@pped upon in the contract or in the pilot group as a whole isn’t silly, it’s stupid. You want a pilot group where it’s every man for himself? That’s what you’ll get.

I don’t care that it’s better than what you had, or that when you were a newbie FO you had to push back the aircraft yourself, uphill, after you did the walk around, IN THE SNOW, surviving on snack basket leftovers, and you were glad for the chance. Because things are changing. The demographics are changing. Some regionals and a lot of ACMIs are scraping the bottom of the barrel.

If that’s where you want your newbies to come from, keep treating them like dirt. You’ll get your wish.

Low time? I watched my neighbor get hired at DAL with 2800hrs TT. Personally know another with 1200 TT get hired at AA. Just because we didn't hire you don't act like a know it all expert now after the fact. It's not just about TT. It's about do you fit in here at Spirit. They didn't think you were a good fit. So what, go to DAL or UAL. Good luck! :D

It's not the debt guys, it's just California lol.. And anyways, my generation finished college with our ratings right when the worst recession in nearly a hundred years started.. So while I don't have what would be considered "bad debt," thankfully, I don't have any real assets either (besides some modest equity)..
I wasn't able to buy a house in 2010-2015 and make a quick 100k like some folks.. Anyway, I don't owe anyone an explanation of why $57 an hour won't work in my situation... And I'm not saying I'm not willing to make the adjustment or sacrifice or whatever. It's just lame your first year pay is $57. No need to roast y'all. And definitely no need to get defensive! You guys sound like a great group of folks, and that's the main reason I applied.

Agreed! They do not care.

I agree that first year pay is rough but would you say the same things in regards to first year pay about Hawaiian or UPS , both Lower than Spirit? I imagine more people here are sympathetic to our new hire pay issues than other places.

Just rack up a bunch of credit card debt on first year pay like the rest of us...


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