SPA union doesn’t care about seniority
08-17-2019, 08:54 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
Have you read the section I pointed out earlier??? Yes I understand up to 8 percent total trips, after talking to the 77 CA REP, he has in writing about check airmen basically telling the training scheduler what trips they want to work.. I will say it again the check airmen are telling the training scheduler what trips they want to work.
The company isn’t randomly pulling the trips, they wait for the check airmen to tell them and that has been verified by again our 77 CA REP
The company isn’t randomly pulling the trips, they wait for the check airmen to tell them and that has been verified by again our 77 CA REP
08-17-2019, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
How can they (check airmen) be telling the training scheduler which trips to pull when they have no access to the pairings and pairing numbers. Only the company and the scheduling committee has access to the pairings before the company pulls the trips it wants as part of their 8%. The optimizer does it’s magic with all the flying. Then the company pulls its up to 8% if the choose to do so, and builds the training lines, and the rest gets loaded to navblue. A check airman cannot say please pull pairings D1234 and F1234 and put those on my training line because they have no idea what the pairings are. If they are selecting individual trips it must be after the company has already pulled that flying from the pairing packet.
It does not take a genius to smell foul on this.
08-17-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
How can they (check airmen) be telling the training scheduler which trips to pull when they have no access to the pairings and pairing numbers. Only the company and the scheduling committee has access to the pairings before the company pulls the trips it wants as part of their 8%. The optimizer does it’s magic with all the flying. Then the company pulls its up to 8% if the choose to do so, and builds the training lines, and the rest gets loaded to navblue. A check airman cannot say please pull pairings D1234 and F1234 and put those on my training line because they have no idea what the pairings are. If they are selecting individual trips it must be after the company has already pulled that flying from the pairing packet.
Easy:
Give me those Bogota turns on weekdays only, maybe one 4 day if it's high paying and some 2 days.
You don't have to have the pairing number
08-17-2019, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Easy:
Give me those Bogota turns on weekdays only, maybe one 4 day if it's high paying and some 2 days.
You don't have to have the pairing number
Give me those Bogota turns on weekdays only, maybe one 4 day if it's high paying and some 2 days.
You don't have to have the pairing number
Exactly
“It's like Lenin said, you look for the person who will benefit... And, uh... You know, you'll, uh... You know what I mean...”
08-17-2019, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Easy:
Give me those Bogota turns on weekdays only, maybe one 4 day if it's high paying and some 2 days.
You don't have to have the pairing number
Give me those Bogota turns on weekdays only, maybe one 4 day if it's high paying and some 2 days.
You don't have to have the pairing number
08-17-2019, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LandGreen
Bottom line is the Checkairman should be bidding with every other pilot. If they need to buy an FO or a CA off a trip, that’s the company’s problem.
08-17-2019, 03:32 PM
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The training pairings are almost always high Block. The training department wants to get the student out in as few days as possible. To that end, they schedule the students with the high-value trips. They may get their training done in six days versus eight. That’s 25% faster.
08-17-2019, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed
The training pairings are almost always high Block. The training department wants to get the student out in as few days as possible. To that end, they schedule the students with the high-value trips. They may get their training done in six days versus eight. That’s 25% faster.
Why give the student 3-4 “up and downs” a day to get repetition down? Nah, let’s put him on a 7.5 LGA block so we can sit in cruise for 3 hours each way and work that folder and talk about their old regional. Super effective!
Starting to make sense why a basic visual approach seems to be difficult for guys out of IOE, probably because they have done only a few.
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