Correction every base but MCO and DFW.
Looks like both MCO and DFW will go to July new hires. So about 4 months to hold them. Or 1.5 months since end of IOE.
Everything else even more junior.

How long from new hire to holding a commutable line in DFW?
How long to upgrade in DFW?
Thanks

Everything is in major flux right now due to the huge increase in hiring.

2012-2018 growth around 15%, 2019 almost no hiring, but still growing (meltdown), 2020 catch-up hiring, and forecast continued growth at 15%.
Bases are not very different for seniority, at least from my position. Not a lot of people leaving.
I would guess 50% as an FO, so 25% total would get you a good hard line: between 1-2 years.
Upgrade, count on doubling in size, so 5-6 years.
Could be faster or slower so FWIW.

Let me make sure I’m following you correctly. You’re saying I’d need to be in the top 25 percent of all pilots to hold a commutable line? Or top %25 as a captain?
Would it be safe to say I could be a commuter to a line in DFW FO 2 years, CA 5 years?

No, I gave numbers from the bottom up, sorry. From the top:
75% company wide should give you a good line as an FO, 50% upgrade, 25% good line as a captain.
Commutable line in 2 yes. If you mean upgrade in 5, yes, another year or 2 to hold a decent line as a captain.
Also this is free advice, and you get what you pay for...

Anyone forecasting how soon you'll upgrade, let alone upgrading in a particular domicile, is spit balling at best. Upgrade depends on way too many factors (growth, attrition, pilots bypassing, domicile expansion etc etc).
Reserve is usually 20%-30% of the domicile. Lately it's gone almost exclusively junior so it's been the bottom 20%-30% holding reserve.
If you come here with the "Need" to upgrade quickly or the expectation of major growth you're setting yourself up for disappointment (even with planes on order, nothing is guaranteed). However, if you're looking to join a great pilot group, flying a great airplane, working for a company with a very forward thinking business model, Spirit is a great choice.

I know things are just ramping up again but we have many already upgraded pilots who have been waiting a while to get back to DFW. Additionally we have senior FOs bypassing to avoid commuting and/or reserve. No growth (new flying) there. Every new city we announce seems to go everywhere but DFW.

I don’t “need” to upgrade at all, but I’d like to. Just comparing Spirit to some other places where the upgrade would take 10 years...
Actually I’d make more as a FO at Spirit than I’m making as a CA at my regional now.

What can you guys tell me about the contract and work rules? What does an average line look like? How many days off a month, and what is the commuter policy? Mostly 4 day work blocks or something else?

Sorry to bother with these questions. I don’t know anyone who works there, you’re my only resource! If there is a good place to look it up just let me know.

Reserve 6 on 4 off. Can’t drop/move days and you can’t pick up anything extra on reserve. We used to have much better reserve rules but the “this is better then my regional” mentality got those voted out.



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