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10-29-2019 | 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

I hope they arnt making us recite that too on the oral. If so that’s stupid you have to hunt and dig through different manuals to compile the complete profile. I guess I better check the FAM as well to be sure there’s nothing in there.

Yes you are expected to recite it on the oral. It’s really not that difficult if you put an effort into it.

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10-29-2019 | 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

You’ll also have like fifteen passwords for different sites. It’s great.

10-29-2019 | 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD

Yes you are expected to recite it on the oral. It’s really not that difficult if you put an effort into it.

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That’s not what I’m arguing. It’s stupid they make it your responsibility to put bits and pieces of different manuals together to make the required call out.

As far as I’m concerned it’s it not in the double line box in Com Vol. 1 for the memory iteams then I’m not going to memorize it.

10-29-2019 | 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

Oh yeah, agree with this. It’s a joke you have to jump between books. The memory/proficiency call outs aren’t even with the memory items. Very easy to not even know there is a call out prior to actions.

Word is also a revision is coming which clarifies that the CA is always the PF on the ground. Seems these flow ideas are not going well

10-29-2019 | 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Halon1211

YES!! way in the day ACA had a box in the FOM on the Chief pilot name, and the scheduling phone number, because you were supposed to know that. No box: just need to be able to find it. Box: recite verbatim. And it all should be easily accessible in some training guide.

10-29-2019 | 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheg0theD

The instructors will expect you to have them memorized. You will also get evaluated at the end of week two. The evaluation will be flows, DIFSRIP, ABBBA TOPHAT CANE, and call outs.

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Can you explain to an idiot what those acronyms are? Thanks

10-29-2019 | 07:11 PM

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Can you explain to an idiot what those acronyms are? Thanks

You will learn them by week two.

DIFSRIP and ABBBA is an actual acronym, but tophat and cane is not. Just a flow pattern.

Data
Init A
Flt Plan
Sec FPLN
Rad Nav
Init B
PROG
PERF

Atis
Build
Book
Brief
Approach

10-29-2019 | 07:19 PM

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Thank you, really appreciate it. Trying hard to prepare, only have so many penguins on this iceberg.

10-29-2019 | 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chunk

Don’t forget the preambles on the memory items...

“TCAS, I have control”...

A/P off
Etc etc

The preambles are in the very front of AOM vol 2 (why they aren’t attached to the memory items I have no idea)

What are the preamble's listed under? I can't find these in the front of AOM volume 2? Thanks!

10-29-2019 | 08:11 PM

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A320 app

I don't have an apple product, iPhone or ipad. Is this something we can download on the company ipad when it is issued, or will it be to late by then to have much use? I have been doing it the old fashioned way, paper tiger, and printed out flows. Like others have said this has been rather arduous.