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Old 02-12-2021, 07:47 AM
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Do you all think Spirit will continue with commutable trips?

Frontier said they’d like to go to mostly 1 and 2 day trips on their webinar this week and that is already the Allegiant model.
Truly commutable (late start early finish) multi day trips are a bit of a rarity. I don't think 3 and 4 day trips are going anywhere soon though. Spirit is pretty opportunistic with route structure, and you'll regularly see 4 day trips that never touch another crew base.
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Old 02-12-2021, 08:27 AM
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and you'll regularly see 4 day trips that never touch another crew base.

Wow! not my experience...
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Old 02-12-2021, 09:39 AM
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I can count on one hand the amount of 4 days with in base turns I’ve done. Maybe its a base thing, maybe it’s maybelline.
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Old 02-12-2021, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by doubles
Do you all think Spirit will continue with commutable trips?

Frontier said they’d like to go to mostly 1 and 2 day trips on their webinar this week and that is already the Allegiant model.
There are trips that are commutable on both ends, but they’re typically low paying 4 days (right at 20hrs). More common is commutable on 1 end.

4 days are by far the most common trips so I don’t see those going away.
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Old 02-13-2021, 12:04 AM
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Wow! not my experience...
...at all. I find many trips have me circulating to another’s base and then basically doing turns out of it.
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Old 02-13-2021, 04:11 AM
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Trip mix has always been erratic. They change flight times or add and subtract segments each month. And when we were growing they add new destinations as well. You add one new segment next month and when they run the pairing optimizer it could create all new overnights in one base or toss turns from one base into a 4 day trip from another. They will build whatever trips are required for the overall lowest cost for the entire system. That may create inefficiencies somewhere but it saves money in the global solution. Point being trip mix is quite erratic.
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Old 02-13-2021, 06:18 AM
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For DFW we hardly ever see our base after the first leg.
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Old 02-14-2021, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by phly
Truly commutable (late start early finish) multi day trips are a bit of a rarity. I don't think 3 and 4 day trips are going anywhere soon though. Spirit is pretty opportunistic with route structure, and you'll regularly see 4 day trips that never touch another crew base.

Depends on the commute and base. Mine is fairly easy as its a quick flight to base and many many options. I can be in base by 930 with two options most days except holidays like Christmas day and july 4th. So for me, bidding to report after 930ish release by 8pm ish actually works well. Been mostly commutable since my first held line. Probably 1/3rd of my trips are commutable in just one end, the rest 100% commutable (if I bid with just commutability in mind). Not too shabby for not being a senior bidder. My occasional in-base hotel bill for any given month is half the price of any crashpad.
I agree with the other post though that most fully commutable trips are the lower credit 4 days. But some really decent or high credit half commutables. I kind of prefer those that arent backend commutable and back it up with a day or two day trip that is. YMMV
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Old 02-14-2021, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by GrassLandings
Depends on the commute and base. Mine is fairly easy as its a quick flight to base and many many options. I can be in base by 930 with two options most days except holidays like Christmas day and july 4th. So for me, bidding to report after 930ish release by 8pm ish actually works well. Been mostly commutable since my first held line. Probably 1/3rd of my trips are commutable in just one end, the rest 100% commutable (if I bid with just commutability in mind). Not too shabby for not being a senior bidder. My occasional in-base hotel bill for any given month is half the price of any crashpad.
I agree with the other post though that most fully commutable trips are the lower credit 4 days. But some really decent or high credit half commutables. I kind of prefer those that arent backend commutable and back it up with a day or two day trip that is. YMMV
Any base any more commuter friendly than the other, in regards to pairings?
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Old 02-14-2021, 01:41 PM
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Any base any more commuter friendly than the other, in regards to pairings?
yes. dfw and acy are mostly not commutable
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