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Old 02-15-2021, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Yuko
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
Yeah, I can't imagine being based there unless you lived in a two hour drivetime range ring.
Depends on where you're coming in from, but you'd be surprised what you could get done in DFW. When I commuted there in 2018, it was 1 hour gate to gate from my home airport with 10-12x daily service on AA. I would bid early shows and take the last flight into DFW departing at 8pm the night before, and be at the hotel by 930pm at the latest. Backup flight was the early morning departure arriving in DFW just after 6am, so I was good to go for anything with a report time after 6:15am. Last train home from DFW left at 10:35pm most nights, and that worked out more often that not. I also had SWA out of DAL if I was really in a pinch.

Honestly, of the few different commutes I've done it was the one where I spent the least amount of time sitting around in the airport. To be fair though I did have to buy my fair share of hotel rooms the night prior.
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Old 02-15-2021, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by symbian simian
So this is how I do the math:

If you live in base TAFB is the number. If you commute TAFH (Time Away From Home) is what I look at. I am a commuter, so every trip I have to give myself two (covid = 1) options to get to work. I am lucky so we have hourly service, and it is a two hour flight, so I get to the airport 4 hours before check-in. Same for the commute home, so I spend 8 hours commuting for every trip. I do 4 trips a month, 12 months a year, minus vacation, so 8 x 4 x 11 = 350 hours. We get paid 1 hour for every 3.5 hours TAFB, so 100 hours I don’t get paid for compared to someone my seniority who lives in base (not complaining, I choose to commute). Before tax, including DC about $25K per year.

Every hour I am in my base not getting trip rigs costs me about $75. The $50 I pay for the hotel is totally irrelevant, getting home is more important, so I will always pick the commutable trips.
As someone that commuted for 8 years and lived in base 7 the amount of money and time lost just on the type of trips you may fly, or purposely bidding RSV at home, or premium pay opportunities taken or lost, is really massive. You can make significantly more money AND and have significantly more time at home living in base.
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Old 02-15-2021, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
As someone that commuted for 8 years and lived in base 7 the amount of money and time lost just on the type of trips you may fly, or purposely bidding RSV at home, or premium pay opportunities taken or lost, is really massive. You can make significantly more money AND and have significantly more time at home living in base.
For sure, but the fact you can live where ever you want is pretty damn cool and should never ever be overlooked. In the massive grand scheme of things, commuting isn’t going to change anyone’s life (financially) that much.

Assuming you came here 20-30 years left your going to retire with $2-3 million + with almost zero effort. Commuting isn’t going to change that figure.

I have ZERO interest in ever living in base (unless my hometown becomes a base &#128518. I “lived in base” at a regional. Everyone told me
it’s such a QOL game changer. 🥱 it sucked immensely. So I have an apartment in a city where I have no connection to (let alone actual care about), only know/have half a dozen CA friends I flew with and for what? It sucked. My friends and family and the things I ACTUALLY cared about were back home.

Live where you want to live (within reason). With the number of bases we have I assume (unless you super small town/city) most can get non stop flights to work.
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Old 02-15-2021, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
As someone that commuted for 8 years and lived in base 7 the amount of money and time lost just on the type of trips you may fly, or purposely bidding RSV at home, or premium pay opportunities taken or lost, is really massive. You can make significantly more money AND and have significantly more time at home living in base.

Trust me, I’d love to move to base and I think most commuters would too, but in doing so I’d be asking way too much of my wife. I’d pull her away from her family and job so she could basically sit at home by herself for ~15 days a month. Not everyone can just uproot their family and move unfortunately.
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Old 02-15-2021, 09:13 PM
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I wish I had done it sooner. Over time you make new friends and “support system”. Having great neighbors helps a lot. Picking the right neighborhood and school district is key to the neighbor factor.
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Old 02-16-2021, 01:41 AM
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I’m in the “move to your base so life doesn’t suck” camp.

But then there’s the “we moved to base and the wife hates it” camp...
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Old 02-17-2021, 07:39 AM
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I got this one easy tip to make more money. Leave the regionals.
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:12 AM
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Burn...... Kelso style from That 70s Show.
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Old 02-17-2021, 10:14 AM
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Hey all, any good rumors of new pilot bases? BWI maybe? Thanks
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