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Old 03-19-2020 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Omniscient
Its also that single fleet type that will help SWA and Spirit survive this, by not having massive training costs in displacements.

I can’t imagine people taking the VLOA with no credit. When they don’t get enough takers, I’d imagine they would have to strike a deal for paid VLOA; its the easiest way to shed near term
costs, without the costs of furlough.
Just curious but what are the costs of furlough? As well no bennies with a furlough?
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Old 03-19-2020 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Just curious but what are the costs of furlough? As well no bennies with a furlough?
it costs the company a lot to furlough. Hard to put an exact number on it, but it’s a lot.
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Old 04-01-2020 | 06:43 PM
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Can you take a voluntary leave and request the first class once available?
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Old 04-02-2020 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 69fastback
it costs the company a lot to furlough. Hard to put an exact number on it, but it’s a lot.
Can you explain how did you come up with “a lot”? I don’t see how furloughs can cost NK money. Downgrading captains for us would require some sim requal, but we own them and they’ll be underused anyways.
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Old 04-02-2020 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Balker
Can you explain how did you come up with “a lot”? I don’t see how furloughs can cost NK money. Downgrading captains for us would require some sim requal, but we own them and they’ll be underused anyways.
Because downgrade causes displacements. I was displayed once at my last airline. It cost the company almost $10,000 for a commercial company to move our stuff and broken lease fees.
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Old 04-02-2020 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Because downgrade causes displacements. I was displayed once at my last airline. It cost the company almost $10,000 for a commercial company to move our stuff and broken lease fees.
And if I get downgraded and they furlough a second year FO they save $20K per month just in salary, never mind healthcare and other contributions.
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Old 04-02-2020 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Because downgrade causes displacements. I was displayed once at my last airline. It cost the company almost $10,000 for a commercial company to move our stuff and broken lease fees.
Let me guess, that was a regional right? Just basic numbers will tell you how much 500 downgraded captains will save the company on a 3-month period. Again, I’m not saying furloughs are happening, but they would save the company lots of dough.
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Old 04-02-2020 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Balker
Let me guess, that was a regional right? Just basic numbers will tell you how much 500 downgraded captains will save the company on a 3-month period. Again, I’m not saying furloughs are happening, but they would save the company lots of dough.
Yes that was a regional, it still doesn’t change the fact that displacing pilots still has a cost which I pointed out. Furlough and downgrade may or may not be the best outcome for the company. It depends how long they want to do it for.
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Old 04-02-2020 | 04:38 PM
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I’d bet not many displaced would actually move. Also, my guess is they will not pay the furlough pay in the contract. Furloughs at a single fleet carrier aren’t that expensive and if you bring guys back relatively quickly my guess is it’s a short course
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Old 04-02-2020 | 08:51 PM
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Why do they even need to do a short course? Warmup and PC for up to 1 year furlough. At least that's how it was done last time around.
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