Do you SLOP?
01-23-2020, 05:42 PM
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Do you SLOP?
Now that we are flying from PHL to places in the Caribbean and this is new to us I thought this would come in handy. A captain I flew with showed me this video. Explains about SLOP procedure in the WATRS (and other) routes. Different than other deviations. I know you can only get some much from the manuals.
https://youtu.be/HBF31B5W_R8
if you guys that have experience flying transatlantic have any other tips feel free to chime in.
https://youtu.be/HBF31B5W_R8
if you guys that have experience flying transatlantic have any other tips feel free to chime in.
01-23-2020, 05:47 PM
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Do you SLOP?
Didn’t know you should SLOP on the WATRS, but then again I’ve only flown those tracks like 4 or 5 times.
However on the NATS (now referred to as the North Atlantic HLA) I would put 0, 1, 2 on a sheet of paper in a hat and have the guy I’m flying with pick one. That’s what I would SLOP.
Not much else to talk about except remembering to take the offset out before you exit.
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However on the NATS (now referred to as the North Atlantic HLA) I would put 0, 1, 2 on a sheet of paper in a hat and have the guy I’m flying with pick one. That’s what I would SLOP.
Not much else to talk about except remembering to take the offset out before you exit.
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01-23-2020, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
Now that we are flying from PHL to places in the Caribbean and this is new to us I thought this would come in handy. A captain I flew with showed me this video. Explains about SLOP procedure in the WATRS (and other) routes. Different than other deviations. I know you can only get some much from the manuals.
https://youtu.be/HBF31B5W_R8
if you guys that have experience flying transatlantic have any other tips feel free to chime in.
https://youtu.be/HBF31B5W_R8
if you guys that have experience flying transatlantic have any other tips feel free to chime in.
01-23-2020, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by doublebed
Why would I bother watching an ancient video that you posted to educate myself regarding company routes? If its is required/necessary the company should be providing additional training. Anything else should be in the manuals. Did I miss your point?
01-23-2020, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
They’re not filing WATRS routes at the moment. Hugging the coast for now.
And it that case I ask the OP: why would you start a thread about something we aren't even doing? If the company files these routes don't you imagine they would provide training? It's new to me so I would be excited to learn about it. My frustration stems from what I have perceived as an institutional "learn it on your own time" approach to training at Spirit Airlines. We should not be promoting that.
01-23-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by doublebed
Ah I see. Thanks.
And it that case I ask the OP: why would you start a thread about something we aren't even doing? If the company files these routes don't you imagine they would provide training? It's new to me so I would be excited to learn about it. My frustration stems from what I have perceived as an institutional "learn it on your own time" approach to training at Spirit Airlines. We should not be promoting that.
And it that case I ask the OP: why would you start a thread about something we aren't even doing? If the company files these routes don't you imagine they would provide training? It's new to me so I would be excited to learn about it. My frustration stems from what I have perceived as an institutional "learn it on your own time" approach to training at Spirit Airlines. We should not be promoting that.
01-23-2020, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FNGFO
They’re not filing WATRS routes at the moment. Hugging the coast for now.
01-23-2020, 08:36 PM
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Do you SLOP?
Originally Posted by doublebed
Why would I bother watching an ancient video that you posted to educate myself regarding company routes? If its is required/necessary the company should be providing additional training. Anything else should be in the manuals. Did I miss your point?
It’s actually in the FOM. Granted I agree, they should provide a sum total or some sort of class on WATRS/ CLASS II Nav.
Yes I agree that it should be a paid training course.
Skimming through the FOM, we are still missing some data fields on our OFP to comply with Class II Nav. The FOM also contradicts it self with the AOM in regards to Gross Navigational Check. It’s not perfect, but if we put the time into reading the FOM or better yet an online module taught by a company that specializes in International/Class II/ WATRS Flying. We would have less problems.
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