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Old 02-14-2020 | 06:12 AM
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I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?
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Old 02-14-2020 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?
wrong place to get your answer. Send an email to the PBS Trainers or JPWG.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Conquistador27
I was told that if you are considered a line holder, as in you were bidding say 50 out of 100 lines, that the only way to get reserve is by bidding reserve. Is that true?

No, you can bid in such a way that you put yourself on reserve.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 08:21 AM
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if you avoid ESN or CSSN you cannot be on reserve unless you bid yourself into it. Everything else is deniable to get you a line (except anything with CSSN/ESN attached)

I cannot emphasize how much people misuse clear schedule start next. stop using it if you don't understand it.
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But but but they said you aren’t required to waive consecutive days off down from 4. Oh wait, you may not get a line if you didn’t waive and guys junior to you did. Hello rsv.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 10:47 AM
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that's also true. but that doesn't mean you bid yourself into reserve. that just means you could've waived certain parts of the contract to get a line, but if you didn't then no line. That's different than bidding yourself into reserve.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
that's also true. but that doesn't mean you bid yourself into reserve. that just means you could've waived certain parts of the contract to get a line, but if you didn't then no line. That's different than bidding yourself into reserve.
Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.
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Old 02-14-2020 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.
IMO, it’s a protection if you want it but it doesn’t hinder your schedule if you don’t. You want the last 10 days of the month off? Won’t get it with mandatory 4 days off. Want every Friday - Sunday off? Won’t get it with mandatory 4 days off. Being able to waive it helps far more people than it hurts. Whatever gets you fired up though...
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Old 02-14-2020 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Not really. It means guys junior to you waived portions of the contract that are supposed to be protected and they took the line your seniority actually holds. It’s the same principle as someone willing to do your job for less. However anyone wants to view the 4 days off, it is supposed to be protected and you essentially are bidding to the lowest common denominator if guys below you are willing to waive.
They are not taking it from you. If the waive didn't exist both of you would be on reserve as the software ran out of ways to legally put flying down and give 4 days every time.

The guy below you who "waived" didn't take anything from you.
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They are not taking it from you. If the waive didn't exist both of you would be on reserve as the software ran out of ways to legally put flying down and give 4 days every time.

The guy below you who "waived" didn't take anything from you.
This is exactly the way to look at it before getting all worked up.

If you’re right there on the cutoff line , including a RLL on your bid might save the day while still giving you 4 days off.
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