Atlas 767 CA move to Spirit
02-20-2020, 06:51 PM
#41
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 439
Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Not being able to manipulate your days off post award
Limited premium flying opportunities
no assurance of reserve period despite seniority
commute to reserve vs trips
can’t swap with open for preferred layover cities, soft credit, more commutable, etc
long call converted to short call
flying the awful orphan trips leftover, or cobbled together Frankenstein pairings like double deadhead layover, one leg, layover, deadhead home and no hotel/transport booked
getting called out on a holiday because a line holder short calls sick
Sure there are people here who talk about how easy reserve life is here, but it’s largely anecdotal.
Limited premium flying opportunities
no assurance of reserve period despite seniority
commute to reserve vs trips
can’t swap with open for preferred layover cities, soft credit, more commutable, etc
long call converted to short call
flying the awful orphan trips leftover, or cobbled together Frankenstein pairings like double deadhead layover, one leg, layover, deadhead home and no hotel/transport booked
getting called out on a holiday because a line holder short calls sick
Sure there are people here who talk about how easy reserve life is here, but it’s largely anecdotal.
02-21-2020, 05:06 AM
#42
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Joined APC: Apr 2007
Position: A319, A320, A321
Posts: 544
Originally Posted by DrDHD
reserve life here is equivalent to Commutair! Horrible!
02-21-2020, 05:48 AM
#43
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Originally Posted by RonnyK320
Granted I live in base, but I almost always bid reserve, and I could hold a decent line. With PBS, I get the days off I want so there's no need to drop reserve days anymore.
02-21-2020, 07:57 AM
#44
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Position: 320
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by Green Giant
Former Evergreen 747 driver. Upgrade is going down to 2 years. Once in the left seat at our pay scales, you won’t regret it.
Next contract even more pay. Quality of life can’t be beat. Management is extremely supportive and friendly.
Best career move I’ve made. My 401K just keeps getting bigger faster than I could have imagined.
I know it sounds terrible. Maybe hold out for A legacy.
Next contract even more pay. Quality of life can’t be beat. Management is extremely supportive and friendly.
Best career move I’ve made. My 401K just keeps getting bigger faster than I could have imagined.
I know it sounds terrible. Maybe hold out for A legacy.
NK is a good place to work but it ain’t the supportive and friendly place this guy says. just to be devil’s advocate....this place very much has the skeletons
of our old CEO all over it. Mgmt steps over dollars to save a nickel in almost every aspect of the operation. Crew scheduling can’t figure out the flight attendants cba is not the same as ours. In training you’re going to be packed like a sardine with FA in the hallway screaming their call outs. Our passengers generally suck and have no common decency. When you deadhead you’re going to see the filthy planes and lavs (and gum chewing selfie snapping gate agents) the passengers have to deal with which goes a long way to harden the belief we are low tier.
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
02-21-2020, 08:16 AM
#45
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 961
Originally Posted by Green Giant
Former Evergreen 747 driver. Upgrade is going down to 2 years. Once in the left seat at our pay scales, you won’t regret it.
Next contract even more pay. Quality of life can’t be beat. Management is extremely supportive and friendly.
Best career move I’ve made. My 401K just keeps getting bigger faster than I could have imagined.
I know it sounds terrible. Maybe hold out for A legacy.
Next contract even more pay. Quality of life can’t be beat. Management is extremely supportive and friendly.
Best career move I’ve made. My 401K just keeps getting bigger faster than I could have imagined.
I know it sounds terrible. Maybe hold out for A legacy.
Originally Posted by Av viii
Wow. I would say this is from Jyri but I hear he’s too busy to be lurking here.
NK is a good place to work but it ain’t the supportive and friendly place this guy says. just to be devil’s advocate....this place very much has the skeletons
of our old CEO all over it. Mgmt steps over dollars to save a nickel in almost every aspect of the operation. Crew scheduling can’t figure out the flight attendants cba is not the same as ours. In training you’re going to be packed like a sardine with FA in the hallway screaming their call outs. Our passengers generally suck and have no common decency. When you deadhead you’re going to see the filthy planes and lavs (and gum chewing selfie snapping gate agents) the passengers have to deal with which goes a long way to harden the belief we are low tier.
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
NK is a good place to work but it ain’t the supportive and friendly place this guy says. just to be devil’s advocate....this place very much has the skeletons
of our old CEO all over it. Mgmt steps over dollars to save a nickel in almost every aspect of the operation. Crew scheduling can’t figure out the flight attendants cba is not the same as ours. In training you’re going to be packed like a sardine with FA in the hallway screaming their call outs. Our passengers generally suck and have no common decency. When you deadhead you’re going to see the filthy planes and lavs (and gum chewing selfie snapping gate agents) the passengers have to deal with which goes a long way to harden the belief we are low tier.
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
With the first post being a tad overly rosy and the second being wildly inaccurate, I think it's safe to say that reality is meeting somewhere in the middle of these two perspectives.
02-21-2020, 08:35 AM
#46
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 417
Originally Posted by Av viii
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
Originally Posted by SSlow
With the first post being a tad overly rosy and the second being wildly inaccurate, I think it's safe to say that reality is meeting somewhere in the middle of these two perspectives.
02-21-2020, 08:42 AM
#47
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 657
Originally Posted by Av viii
Wow. I would say this is from Jyri but I hear he’s too busy to be lurking here.
NK is a good place to work but it ain’t the supportive and friendly place this guy says. just to be devil’s advocate....this place very much has the skeletons
of our old CEO all over it. Mgmt steps over dollars to save a nickel in almost every aspect of the operation. Crew scheduling can’t figure out the flight attendants cba is not the same as ours. In training you’re going to be packed like a sardine with FA in the hallway screaming their call outs. Our passengers generally suck and have no common decency. When you deadhead you’re going to see the filthy planes and lavs (and gum chewing selfie snapping gate agents) the passengers have to deal with which goes a long way to harden the belief we are low tier.
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
NK is a good place to work but it ain’t the supportive and friendly place this guy says. just to be devil’s advocate....this place very much has the skeletons
of our old CEO all over it. Mgmt steps over dollars to save a nickel in almost every aspect of the operation. Crew scheduling can’t figure out the flight attendants cba is not the same as ours. In training you’re going to be packed like a sardine with FA in the hallway screaming their call outs. Our passengers generally suck and have no common decency. When you deadhead you’re going to see the filthy planes and lavs (and gum chewing selfie snapping gate agents) the passengers have to deal with which goes a long way to harden the belief we are low tier.
The only reason this place is any good is the training department goes above and beyond to do a good job and Sandy has some magic wand that weeds out the jack wipes and manages to hire people that are good to fly with. And the pay is livable.
Yep pretty much this is spot on. I’m not sure where everyone is getting the yellow flavored Kool-Aid around here but don’t drink it. Is this the worst place in the world to work? No. But it certainly isn’t this rosy picture some guys paint.
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02-21-2020, 09:30 AM
#48
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Position: baller, shot caller
Posts: 961
Originally Posted by onedolla
Well, his last two sentences were pretty much dead on.
02-21-2020, 09:40 AM
#49
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Position: 320
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by SSlow
With the first post being a tad overly rosy and the second being wildly inaccurate, I think it's safe to say that reality is meeting somewhere in the middle of these two perspectives.
Now it may seem to some that I was complaining but I am not. And if guys would stop drinking the juice around here and being so grateful it’s better than their regional we could make some real gains.
02-21-2020, 10:24 AM
#50
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Posts: 657
Originally Posted by Av viii
Now it may seem to some that I was complaining but I am not. And if guys would stop drinking the juice around here and being so grateful it’s better than their regional we could make some real gains.
This. Our last contract is a product of the “better then my regional” mentality.
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