What are we talking about???

 

I heard from a friend that Spirit is still running new hire classes. Is that true? Did one start today?

if so, will the new hires actually make it though IOE, or be put on a paid leave once finished with training?

 

We, surprisingly (unlike United), gave a training class to those who were offered one. All else are being put into a pool. They will likely make it through OE as we are not allowed to furlough till 10/1 (CARES Act), though I anticipate a reduction in force shortly there after. How much? Who knows.... But, Who denies knowing, so it’s up to what.

 

Yes we are still stupidly running new hire classes because management likes to spend money when we are in “survival mode.”


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Don't bet on the OE part. January new hires still are waiting to finish OE.

 

I'll believe that

 

try November.......

 

For those in the pool...any word on when youd see a class, or just "we'll call ya when this is over" type thing? You have to wonder what the outlook will be like for poolies after the CARES act limitations end in Sept..

 

Clearly, for the whole industry, future prosperity depends on just how soon the public starts flying again. That depends on how quickly COVID tapers off and how much the media stops hyping it, as well as just how much long term damage this quarantine has done to the economy.

FWIW, my personal opinion is that predominantly domestic airlines with single type fleets (NK, F9, SWA (assuming the MAX remains the same type) and Alaska (because they’ll dump their 320s) ) will be less likely to furlough than anyone else and sooner to be calling up people from pools.

The people I believe are truly screwed right now are the junior people from the Big Three who will be displaced into furlough by the more senior widebody overseas pilots whose pax will be the last to return. But the HR departments for the airlines whose flying will return first - like F9 and NK, aren’t going to touch those people for fear they’ll lose them back to their original carriers after training them. They will instead prefer pool dwellers who have no seniority number anywhere else.

That’s my opinion anyway. Yours certainly may vary...

 

Thats kinda my thoughts on it as well..I would hope that the HR depts wouldnt just keep hiring folks, even if they were thinking layoffs in the fall...but like the old saying "they hire until they furlough" so I guess its kind of a bet.
I do think being in the pool is probably the best place to "ride out" the storm, and get a feel for how things are going to proceed.