DOT Final Order-Continuation Of Service
04-08-2020 | 05:32 PM
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Back of napkin math , let’s say they do 45 flights a day in a slow down, multiplied by 30 days a month, divided by the number of requires flights per station as per the final order that was just issued (approx 14 at 3 a week) = 96 stations. I think in a 45 flights a day slow down , they could support flying to 96 stations , and keep in mind , international stations are excluded. I’m sure some routes will have higher yields than others , but they’ll probably ask for specific route exemptions like the Greensboro’s Richmond’s , and Asheville’s etc. If the service requirements are the main concern, I’d bet they take the money
Fly ORD-DTW three times a week and that covers it for all flight requirements in and out of those two airports?
Maybe FLL-MCO-TPA-RSW-FLL circle three times a week would fulfill the requirement for all those airports? Something like that would be the best way to minimize operating costs.
If we only need three flights a week in or out of FLL that would be a HUUUUUUUUGE savings. (Or DTW or LAS or any other “point”)
Either way the requirements of this law are not very well thought out.
04-08-2020 | 05:47 PM
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So every market we serve once daily - we would still have to go three times a week? This would only be a 57% cut in service. I can’t see this working with single digit passenger numbers. We are already at 90%.
And for the big airlines that are serving a market five flights a day - they only need to serve five times a week now. =86% reduction
Prepare for the bad news and furloughs
And for the big airlines that are serving a market five flights a day - they only need to serve five times a week now. =86% reduction
Prepare for the bad news and furloughs
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...er%20FINAL.PDF
04-08-2020 | 06:11 PM
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Looks like we are asking for a lot of exemptions. Trying to cut 26 cities. Bold move.
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
04-08-2020 | 06:41 PM
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Looks like we are asking for a lot of exemptions. Trying to cut 26 cities. Bold move.
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
https://www.regulations.gov/document...2020-0037-0049
04-08-2020 | 07:06 PM
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Using ATL as an example. WN operates 431 per week and only has to operate 5. NK operates 73 per week and has to operate 3? The whole list is like this. Unless it means NK is getting a larger chunk of aid, that's some kind of sh!t.
04-08-2020 | 07:07 PM
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Agree. Airlines are paid to fly airplanes. That is the whole point of the business. These cities need service for the essential workers who are traveling. Why would the government bail the airlines out to have them say "thanks for the cash" and then park the whole fleet. Some pilots are thinking selfishly. They are playing management puppets to hopefully keep from getting furloughed. Have some morals even in hard times.
04-08-2020 | 07:21 PM
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It’s more like 75%-80% cut. You’re assuming we have to serve those “routes” which is not the case, however we just need to serve hose stations 3 times a week. Which is similar to our May’s schedule. We just need to do 3 flight per week to that station. For example we do LAS-BOS 7 days a week. We can still drop that route and serve BOS from FLL. The issues is places like Plattsburgh that only see 7 flight per week, and we have to do 3. Here’s a few examples of the stations that we don’t serve now, but what we did per week: MSP-81, IND-28, DEN-84. We only need 3 Flights to these places. The cuts are much higher than you think even if we have to start those stations back up. Here is the final ruling from the DOT which shows who operate to each cities by airlines.
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...er%20FINAL.PDF
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...er%20FINAL.PDF
Wow, thank you for the link to the actual “Final Order”.
Looks pretty reasonable and I was completely wrong. Maybe we will end up in good shape with the grant money after all.
04-09-2020 | 03:45 AM
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Seriously? Frontier, Allegiant, Sun Country, and Spirit got !@#$% on this in a Federal pound me in the !@# sort of way.
04-09-2020 | 05:10 AM
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