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08-05-2020 | 01:50 PM
#361
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I am one of the "10%". When I fly with another one of the "10%"(I think around 40% of the time), and politics do come up, we always agree on 1 thing: we prefer not to talk about politics because of the way the "90%" talk about politics, mostly because they seem to assume they can change our minds, and we know your minds are closed.
08-05-2020 | 02:02 PM
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Source for the 90% please.
I am one of the "10%". When I fly with another one of the "10%"(I think around 40% of the time), and politics do come up, we always agree on 1 thing: we prefer not to talk about politics because of the way the "90%" talk about politics, mostly because they seem to assume they can change our minds, and we know your minds are closed.
I am one of the "10%". When I fly with another one of the "10%"(I think around 40% of the time), and politics do come up, we always agree on 1 thing: we prefer not to talk about politics because of the way the "90%" talk about politics, mostly because they seem to assume they can change our minds, and we know your minds are closed.
Country over party. Period.
08-05-2020 | 02:06 PM
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That’s unfortunate. I was really hoping none of the people speaking to other professionals/coworkers, in such a condescending, disrespectful manner, as so many have done in this thread, had reproduced.
08-05-2020 | 02:54 PM
#365
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Furloughs will happen. Even if we get Cares 2.0 they still may right size unless the law states all covered employees must remain. Furlough is planned to last until Summer 2021 flying. Yes it's still cheaper to furlough. Two planes still coming this year, 16 still coming next year mostly on second half.
08-05-2020 | 02:57 PM
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Biggest takeaway for me - someone asking about CAREs 2.0 (article today showing it has Sen Republican support for extending airline pay grants now), “Umm ya know (lol), we can mitigate a lot of furloughs without a CAREs 2.0, but I can’t mitigate them all” etc.
This leads me to believe that after an agreement (assuming it happens) for say 1-3-6 maybe 9 month VILs we could have a very small amount of furloughs even if we got not more support from DC.
Luckily, with 16 Senate Republicans now supporting an extension (House majority already did) it should be included in whatever final bill passes. Time will tell of course, but def positive news.
By the time next March rolls around, we should be talking about having either one or more vaccines that have passed Phase 3 and getting back to normal.
This leads me to believe that after an agreement (assuming it happens) for say 1-3-6 maybe 9 month VILs we could have a very small amount of furloughs even if we got not more support from DC.
Luckily, with 16 Senate Republicans now supporting an extension (House majority already did) it should be included in whatever final bill passes. Time will tell of course, but def positive news.
By the time next March rolls around, we should be talking about having either one or more vaccines that have passed Phase 3 and getting back to normal.
08-05-2020 | 02:59 PM
#367
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Furloughs will happen. Even if we get Cares 2.0 they still may right size unless the law states all covered employees must remain. Furlough is planned to last until Summer 2021 flying. Yes it's still cheaper to furlough. Two planes still coming this year, 16 still coming next year mostly on second half.
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08-05-2020 | 03:01 PM
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Furloughs will happen. Even if we get Cares 2.0 they still may right size unless the law states all covered employees must remain. Furlough is planned to last until Summer 2021 flying. Yes it's still cheaper to furlough. Two planes still coming this year, 16 still coming next year mostly on second half.
08-05-2020 | 03:41 PM
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