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Slowhawk 08-08-2021 12:14 PM

Life is what you make it. One can choose to be worried/sour about his career, or enjoy it.

I choose to enjoy it and appreciate the life this place provides for me, especially since a lot of guys have had it worse in the past. Genuinely love working here.

When I’m older, you won’t hear me speaking ill of anyone who got here with less regional time/struggles than me, either;)

IamEssential 08-09-2021 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3276059)
It's always something. Pre 9/11 had an FO who got hired at 500 hours legit *****ing to me that the flight case the company gave new hires wasn't as big as he'd like. I told him as politely as I could that every CA currently on property paid for their own hotel during training and only 6 months before I was hired paid 5 figures for their own type. So be careful who and what you're *****ing about.

Nothing ever changes.

wow, I guess some people are just oblivious to their surroundings. At my old Regional new FOs would actually complain to CAs about the bonuses, meanwhile those CAs had no bonuses at all when they were hired and worse their lack of pay subsidized those FO bonuses.

Fah2 08-09-2021 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Slowhawk (Post 3276068)

When I’m older, you won’t hear me speaking ill of anyone who got here with less regional time/struggles than me, either;)

You missed the point…

The guy posting in the last few pages is genuinely concerned that the sky is falling because we had a tough week operationally. This is not the first one, and won’t be the last.

It’s not a gripe about new guys not paying dues. Covid is the first “industry event” that many pilots have been through, and career wise it was relatively benign. In fact it’s probably more net positive for them as it boosted retirements and more guys will see majors in their 20’s than in their 40’s.

I hope for your sakes you sail right through to the position you wanted and enjoy long fruitful careers, I really do.

But those who have surfed a few industry cycles have a icier veins for things like the idea of a few hundred cancellations threatening their job.

korg128 08-09-2021 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by RemoveB4Flight (Post 3275770)
You sound very unsure/afraid for your future.
Just out of curiosity, what made you come to Spirit in the first place. Since you're new, it hasn't been long since you had certainly been asked "why Spirit?". I'm curious what your answer was.
I'm wonder if you quickly forgot your reasons for leaving your regional for Spirit, or if you maybe didn't do your homework and didn't truly know the airline you were quiting your job to join.
If you could snap your fingers and be back at your regional, would you?

Contract was great. Home basing in fll.
What I didn't know was that management here was inept. Though I hear allot of people saying they have thick veins etc how many old dogs said that and then got canned from their job. It's not about being some salty tough airline guy it's being proactive. If this meltdown showed me anything this management team will flat out leave its employees out to dry. See under the gate agent issues etc / staffing to some pilots hiding in a bunker. Would love to see some of the people on this thread say with a straight face that that's normal.
And no that's not stuff you can expect or read about before you apply to a job as this meltdown is basically unprecedented in its scope in the modern Era. Still no communication either about what they are really doing if anything to fix it

Fah2 08-09-2021 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 3276641)
Would love to see some of the people on this thread say with a straight face that that's normal.

That’s normal

<——— straight face

You’re welcome. Want to hug it out?

Tranquility 08-09-2021 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 3276641)
Still no communication either about what they are really doing if anything to fix it

You kidding? They said they changed the phone tree, and added an extra scheduler from 8am-8pm! That should do the trick, right? :D

CincoDeMayo 08-09-2021 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 3276641)
Contract was great. Home basing in fll.
What I didn't know was that management here was inept. Though I hear allot of people saying they have thick veins etc how many old dogs said that and then got canned from their job. It's not about being some salty tough airline guy it's being proactive. If this meltdown showed me anything this management team will flat out leave its employees out to dry. See under the gate agent issues etc / staffing to some pilots hiding in a bunker. Would love to see some of the people on this thread say with a straight face that that's normal.
And no that's not stuff you can expect or read about before you apply to a job as this meltdown is basically unprecedented in its scope in the modern Era. Still no communication either about what they are really doing if anything to fix it

Management comes and goes. You think any Spirit Management, or any airline management, joins and airline and says “this is my career airline”. Airline management resumes are like baseball manager resumes, tons of hopping from team to team.

Not going to base a career on the current occupants in the C Suite. I’m on my 3rd CEO at Spirit

korg128 08-09-2021 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3276649)
You kidding? They said they changed the phone tree, and added an extra scheduler from 8am-8pm! That should do the trick, right? :D

Ah right exactly.

Jeez why don't we just have an automated sick call
Electronic releases
A operations center in the middle of the country
Paid gate agents who are given actual tools / info to do their job
And not getting trapped in a broom closet because the mobs in San Juan want your head

I guess all too much to ask for

CincoDeMayo 08-09-2021 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 3276656)
Ah right exactly.

Jeez why don't we just have an automated sick call
Electronic releases
A operations center in the middle of the country
Paid gate agents who are given actual tools / info to do their job
And not getting trapped in a broom closet because the mobs in San Juan want your head

I guess all too much to ask for

Was this in the brochure when you applied here?

Fah2 08-09-2021 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by korg128 (Post 3276656)
Ah right exactly.

Jeez why don't we just have an automated sick call
Electronic releases
A operations center in the middle of the country
Paid gate agents who are given actual tools / info to do their job
And not getting trapped in a broom closet because the mobs in San Juan want your head

I guess all too much to ask for

Why didn’t you ask about all this in the interview? All were current issues when you hired on.

Instead you said “good contract” and you don’t have to commute.


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