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Old 06-11-2022 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackOcelot
I'm about to get out of the military and I'm now considering Envoy over Spirit if AA doesn't call by the time I'm ready to start training.
okie dokie! Have fun at the ‘voy!
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Old 06-11-2022 | 10:41 AM
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$90/hr for the Voy or $1700/month to come here. We’re competing against regionals for new blood to survive and we’ve already lost.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 11:19 AM
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Haven’t you heard, first year pay isn’t the pilots problem.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 11:26 AM
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BUT Spirit has desirable pilot bases


That they will then displace you out of.

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Old 06-11-2022 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
True you can proffer for rap at envoy and check airman bid the schedule their seniority can hold. I say go to Envoy, plus their Dallas and Chicago bases aren’t shrinking.
DFW is shrinking for Spirit? That is where I want to be based.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 12:06 PM
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Easy there killer, we have our own negotiations to focus on, whether that’s stand alone or a joint CBA.

We’ve thrown a lifeline in the form of early opening, which it is doubtful they will grab, but then they have to explain to board and shareholders down the road how growth is stunted due to attrition, and recruitment is down due to pay, and they had an opportunity to remedy this and ignored it.

Yes a merger makes this moot, however we still have 18-24 months to run stand alone and planes keep coming.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackOcelot
DFW is shrinking for Spirit? That is where I want to be based.

Yes, the company plans to shrink DFW, ORD, and DTW.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by GWY320
Yes, the company plans to shrink DFW, ORD, and DTW.
just like the new uniforms and FCOM…very soon.
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Old 06-11-2022 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
just like the new uniforms and FCOM…very soon.
Except unlike the uniform and FCOM this is happening. The only reason they pulled it is because it was shown to them that it was done not in accordance with our section 24.

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Old 06-11-2022 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by elmetal
Except unlike the uniform and FCOM this is happening. The only reason they pulled it is because it was shown to them that it was done not in accordance with our section 24.

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