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Old 08-02-2022 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
legacy bases don’t vanish overnight you old crusty dinosaur. Especially now that the merger era in the legacies is over. If a person wants a secure base they can go to a legacy and get one.
Tell that to the AA guys in PHX or BOS. Sitting on the edge of their seats.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997
Does anyone at spirit have any retirement data?
It's not good, not good at all. Without significant expansion you have another SWA situation with decade or longer upgrades. How that may change with the B6 merger I have no clue. But Spirit is a VERY young pilot group.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AR1978
I take it with the news in the last week that Frontier is increasing the first year pilot pay to $90 an hour with a minimum $75 hour guarantee that Spirit will still NOT increase the first year pilot pay?

Lemme know if my logic checks here. From reading on here the reason I'm assuming that is the way the pay works with Spirit is that you cannot just adjust up the pay for the first year First Officers but for everyone. Also from reading on here with the merger the management is focused on other things. Finally, with the merger there could be a lot more pilots applying to Spirit, but I'm not sure if that is actually the case.
Yep, and it is a pretty smart provision in the pilot contract for the pilot group. People need to stop assuming Frontier and Spirit are the same airlines with the same contract. Just because Frontier does something does not compel Spirit to do it, or vice-versa.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
AA- DFW, ORD, CLT, etc

DAL- ATL, SLC, etc

get the point yet?
US Airways - PIT
Delta - CVG
Eastern - MKE

ohh wait
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Old 08-02-2022 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Meep
Those aren’t great examples of bases….STL - TWA hub that AA didn’t want, PIT - US Air hub, AA didn’t want, CLE - CAL hub that UA didn’t want.

Better example would be DL cutting CVG. Regardless, if you think Delta is moving out of Atlanta, I have some oceanfront property in Iowa to sell you.
US Air closed PIT long before they merged with AA. DL closed MEM.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
US Air closed PIT long before they merged with AA. DL closed MEM.
in 2015 UA closed their pilot base at SEA. Not too sure how long it had been open but they once flew DC-3s out of there.


Back in the 60s I believe it was the most senior domicile UA had. But after absorbing Northwest, Delta sort of ran them out. A lot of very senior people found themselves commuting to SFO.

There are no guaranteed safe bases. In the course of a career, becoming a commuter sometime is damn near inevitable.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by IamEssential
US Airways - PIT
Delta - CVG
Eastern - MKE

ohh wait
eastern? We’re really going to talk about eastern when it’s 2022?
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Old 08-02-2022 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
eastern? We’re really going to talk about eastern when it’s 2022?
In 2022, history is not an indicator of what will happen in the future. SMH.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
eastern? We’re really going to talk about eastern when it’s 2022?
Was not aware there was a statute of limitations on this.
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Old 08-02-2022 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator
eastern? We’re really going to talk about eastern when it’s 2022?
DL has closed MCO, DFW and CVG in the last 20 years.
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