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Old 02-03-2023 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
You need to lobby APC to change its category in the airline profiles. Until then it’s an LCC. (Major/National/LCC). Spirit is there as well.
JetBlue is a non-legacy, non-LCC major airline. Regardless, APC isn't the arbiter of airline business models. JetBlue ditched the LCC model a while back. Review their CASM, product and cost structure and get back to me. Maybe we can chat about it when I commute in your CRJ9 jumpseat.
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Old 02-03-2023 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
it’s more like pilots love to makes them selves miserable because they get to fly big planes to Europe.


they really don’t know what’s good for them.

look at APA posting all these videos of how they want better work rules. And how grumpy they are… hey at least they’re a legacy and nobody really cares about the rest.

https://youtu.be/KzEJo28LG-Y

https://youtu.be/nV3RBRNncjM

https://youtu.be/XOd9vpmzHF8
yep they are all so miserable that’s why they all leave and apply at Spirit…
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Old 02-03-2023 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
yep they are all so miserable that’s why they all leave and apply at Spirit…
You are just kind of proving my point… everybody cares about hourly pay rate and being in a legacy. Even if it means having a sh** quality of life.

please explain the videos I just posted.

can you please explain why 90% of the American captains I meet are grumpy.
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Old 02-03-2023 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
You are just kind of proving my point… everybody cares about hourly pay rate and being in a legacy. Even if it means having a sh** quality of life.

please explain the videos I just posted.

can you please explain why 90% of the American captains I meet are grumpy.
I must have missed there part where any of that had to do with drop to zero...
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Old 02-03-2023 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
You are just kind of proving my point… everybody cares about hourly pay rate and being in a legacy. Even if it means having a sh** quality of life.

please explain the videos I just posted.

can you please explain why 90% of the American captains I meet are grumpy.
The videos = contract negotiations. And I’m glad they’re putting those out.

People here can post whatever they want on a web board as whatever character they’ve taken on, but the proof is in the pudding. When it comes time to make real life decisions, in the real world, there’s a steady stream of Spirit pilots to AA and zero from AA to Spirit. Sorry if that hurts.

And 90% of AA Captains aren’t grumpy, and if the ones you meet are then maybe it’s you? This is a real time example of what I’m taking about on these web boards.

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Old 02-03-2023 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by El Peso
The videos = contract negotiations. And I’m glad they’re putting those out.

People here can post whatever they want on a web board as whatever character they’ve taken on, but the proof is in the pudding. When it comes time to make real life decisions, in the real world, there’s a steady stream of Spirit pilots to AA and zero from AA to Spirit. Sorry if that hurts.

And 90% of AA Captains aren’t grumpy, and if the ones you meet are then maybe it’s you? This is a real time example of what I’m taking about on these web boards.
found a grumpy captain.

I never said people weren’t leaving Spirit for AA. So are you suggesting AA has awesome work rules?
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Old 02-03-2023 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by disenchantMINT
JetBlue is a non-legacy, non-LCC major airline. Regardless, APC isn't the arbiter of airline business models. JetBlue ditched the LCC model a while back. Review their CASM, product and cost structure and get back to me. Maybe we can chat about it when I commute in your CRJ9 jumpseat.
Couldn’t resist the dig at the end there could you? Jet blue fits the “national” category it’s in. Your scheduling has some good language. But so does Spirit. It’s going to be an interesting integration. But to say they gave up on the LCC model is a bit disingenuous. They are buying Spirit.
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Old 02-03-2023 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Couldn’t resist the dig at the end there could you? Jet blue fits the “national” category it’s in. Your scheduling has some good language. But so does Spirit. It’s going to be an interesting integration. But to say they gave up on the LCC model is a bit disingenuous. They are buying Spirit.
Can you define “national” airline for me? Thanks.
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Old 02-03-2023 | 11:52 AM
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Can you define “national” airline for me? Thanks.
Ask APC. My assumption is they operate coast to coast. But don’t fit the legacy or major airline category. But I don’t know for a certainty.
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Old 02-03-2023 | 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
Ask APC. My assumption is they operate coast to coast. But don’t fit the legacy or major airline category. But I don’t know for a certainty.
Clearly.

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