Breaking news 180,000 high fives to be paid out over the next five meltdowns.

I agree. Fewer people are interested in investing such ludicrous amounts of money into a career that pays very low wages entry level for highly skilled and educated backgrounds.

Because large attrition at the regional is figuratively a shot in the foot for
Legacy Carriers. The regionals are having a more difficult time recruiting than the majors. If there is a lot of attrition for instance at SkyWest/United Express to United, United is doing itself a disservice by imposing high turnover and staffing issues amongst its regional partners that serve United's very product.

The shortage will never be at the upper echelon of the industry such as United FedEx American etc.

Sure, but the big 3 have all stated they are going to hire 1000+ each next year.

No disagreement, plenty of opportunities ahead but still no shortage at that level in my opinion.

We will see what the next few years bring. I could be vastly incorrect.

Yet 10-20 years ago guys were lining up for the job that paid much less, even taking inflation into account.

And 20+ years ago it paid even less and guys quid buy their first officer jobs to get experience.

So I’m not buying that guys simply don’t want the job for the pay. The pay is way up on all levels, and now we have signing bonuses.

Regional signing bonuses are nothing more than a way to avoid paying higher wages. It's a much cheaper solution to pay new guys a bonus than pay the entire company a wage that makes them consider long term employment. TBH, I'm surprised the unions signed off on it, but then again, regional unions have never held any power.

As for attrition, can it really be any worse than historical attrition here? The majority of us are too new and have only been told stories of how bad Spirit used to be. I imagine attrition was way higher 10-15 years ago than it ever will be again, but that's only my opinion, not based in any factual info.

As unfortunate as it is, it's far cheaper for the company to train and lose a small number of pilots than to pay us all "industry standard."

But that doesn't stop me from cracking a small smile every time I hear of someone leaving.

Yeah well we are all going to be looking for new jobs if we keep touching down midway down the runway when we circle to land on 29 in EWR. We arent SWA, not sure we can survive an overrun if someone gets hurt.

LOE scenario #4 on the way

maybe they make it a CA only landing if it’s a
visual to 29

Oh, that's a fun approach. I was Newark based at my last airline so I did that approach many times. I did it in the Bus for the first time a few weeks ago. I actually kinda showed the captain how to do it. It's really not a hard approach at all and not a terribly short runway. Just use medium autobrake and don't float in the flare.