Instructor direct to right seat UA vs Spirit
02-11-2022 | 11:25 AM
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Instructor direct to right seat UA vs Spirit
Which one would you pick?
UA started to train their pilot from zero hour.
Spirit signed the agreement with ATP, and instructors can straight to right seat in the Bus.
Just curious what motivate candidates come to spirit these day?
UA started to train their pilot from zero hour.
Spirit signed the agreement with ATP, and instructors can straight to right seat in the Bus.
Just curious what motivate candidates come to spirit these day?
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02-11-2022 | 12:00 PM
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Per the ATP agreement, I believe you interview at 500 hours with NK, and if successful start at 1,500 hours upon ATP/CTP.
02-11-2022 | 12:41 PM
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I am trying to figure out if Spirit management has a plan to deal with attrition issue. Based on the email from ALPA today, seems like management didn’t have a plan with ALPA at all.
02-11-2022 | 12:51 PM
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18months time line to accumulate 1500hours as instructor, no college degree required, two years in United Express.
I am trying to figure out if Spirit management has a plan to deal with attrition issue. Based on the email from ALPA today, seems like management didn’t have a plan with ALPA at all.
neither management acknowledge low pay is the issue.
I am trying to figure out if Spirit management has a plan to deal with attrition issue. Based on the email from ALPA today, seems like management didn’t have a plan with ALPA at all.
neither management acknowledge low pay is the issue.
02-11-2022 | 05:47 PM
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18months time line to accumulate 1500hours as instructor, no college degree required, two years in United Express.
I am trying to figure out if Spirit management has a plan to deal with attrition issue. Based on the email from ALPA today, seems like management didn’t have a plan with ALPA at all.
I am trying to figure out if Spirit management has a plan to deal with attrition issue. Based on the email from ALPA today, seems like management didn’t have a plan with ALPA at all.
02-11-2022 | 07:46 PM
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I'm a bit concerned. We're about 1.5 years away from the merger closing. We'll need a new CBA before then. I don't see us getting a new contract any earlier, since it will be nullified. I don't see a pay increase stopping attrition. Management already knows if they make it rain, people will still leave. While I don't think the management group would spend millions to let this thing die on the vine, it seems like they aren't getting ahead of the situation, either.
02-12-2022 | 07:03 AM
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I'm a bit concerned. We're about 1.5 years away from the merger closing. We'll need a new CBA before then. I don't see us getting a new contract any earlier, since it will be nullified. I don't see a pay increase stopping attrition. Management already knows if they make it rain, people will still leave. While I don't think the management group would spend millions to let this thing die on the vine, it seems like they aren't getting ahead of the situation, either.
Merger will close this year. JCBA who knows. My guess is TA middle of 2023. Hopefully if it’s trash it will be voted down and a good TA will manifest by end of 2023.
02-12-2022 | 07:23 AM
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I'm a bit concerned. We're about 1.5 years away from the merger closing. We'll need a new CBA before then. I don't see us getting a new contract any earlier, since it will be nullified. I don't see a pay increase stopping attrition. Management already knows if they make it rain, people will still leave. While I don't think the management group would spend millions to let this thing die on the vine, it seems like they aren't getting ahead of the situation, either.
You forget we were still net positive for pilot growth last month. We are still turning pilots away at interviews, and classes are full.
Yes growing only 15 pilots a month is not sustainable for the number of aircraft coming, however the trend has not established itself… yet.
I can’t see the company rushing in with a MOU to augment compensation until the potential attrition problem is actually a problem.
Let them be reactionary, if the situation gets to the point where planes get parked and recruitment dries up, then we have even more leverage with a JCBA.
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