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Originally Posted by SirHelios
(Post 3402699)
The reasons you came to NK are going to die if we don't get and retain pilots. Period. We cannot only hire our way out of this attrition, we need to retain. If you're that worried about a B6 merger, I'd advise to get out now and start accruing seniority at one of the Big3. Good luck! We're all going to need it one way or the other.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3402775)
ORD, DTW, ACY, and DFW CAs. For those still holding these bases, ask yourself if you think JBLU is going to keep these bases open. Having flights and gates in these markets to compete against Legacy hubs isn’t the same as staffing bases there.
F9 merger is the best opportunity to keep the bases we have due to the simple model of how we fly, city pairs. JBLU might get you some more money hourly but at what cost. Devil is in the details. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3402826)
And you think the pilot’s opinion is going to somehow change the siyuation if the owners say sell?
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3402828)
This entire thread is spirit pilot’s opinions, read “opinions”, on why many of us would like to see Frontier merge with us, instead of JBLU. It’s an opinion, not thinking this sways anything. It’s like your “opinion” on first year pay and how that won’t sway anything
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3402832)
And, like your opinion on first year pay, may soon become a moot point in any event…
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3402836)
Listen to your soon to be new Overlord, Robin; he said in the call that pilot rates will have to increase just to keep up supply. Like 99% of us have said, market forces fixes this, not capital. Sorry man, this is Economics 101 showing that your stance is/was wrong.
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
(Post 3402814)
sounds like a mgmt problem…….
I'd rather be at a destination airline with on-par pay and bennies to the legacies than go with F9 and see this place become a revolving door regional pilot farm. When Sprontier goes to minimum pilots *by design* no one is going to get more than min days off, no matter how senior. So yeah, it's a management problem and I don't think NK or F9 management giving two flying turds about retention. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3402775)
ORD, DTW, ACY, and DFW CAs. For those still holding these bases, ask yourself if you think JBLU is going to keep these bases open. Having flights and gates in these markets to compete against Legacy hubs isn’t the same as staffing bases there.
F9 merger is the best opportunity to keep the bases we have due to the simple model of how we fly, city pairs. JBLU might get you some more money hourly but at what cost. Devil is in the details. Personal bet: I bet DTW and DFW are the most vulnerable. DFW prob more. |
Originally Posted by SirHelios
(Post 3402859)
The displacement bid was just testing the waters. Something is going to get the ax. After any merger there is going to be some house cleaning, guaranteed. Doesn't matter which airline.
Personal bet: I bet DTW and DFW are the most vulnerable. DFW prob more. |
Originally Posted by SoarHigh757
(Post 3402571)
Also as a JetBlue pilot, I will say many people on our forum are extreme. Vast majority of pilots I’ve met here are great people. You are of course still entitled to feel the merger is a bad idea, but please don’t judge us from our few “crazy uncles” on the internet :D
I can tell you one thing, I have not flown with a JB pilot that I wouldn't want to fly with again. Also if it becomes JBNK, listen to the person that posted about this "culture" idea a few pages back...don't suck on to that "Family" and "culture" thing. Its a business, have fun with your crew on overnights, go home. Unify when it's time to negotiate. Mgmt is not your family. JetBlue mgmt would love you for saying "Culture" is important to u. Get your feelings outta your ass and unify when it comes to JCBA, regarless of if it F9NK OR JBNK |
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