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#112
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We already have a maintenance facility in DFw. There just is no hangar there. But that’s where all our new engineless NEOs go to get their engines changed out. There’s two fairly new NEOs there missing engines.
the second hangar is in Houston
the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT.
the second hangar is in Houston
the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT.
#113
We already have a maintenance facility in DFw. There just is no hangar there. But that’s where all our new engineless NEOs go to get their engines changed out. There’s two fairly new NEOs there missing engines.
the second hangar is in Houston
the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT.
the second hangar is in Houston
the SAT announcement email is ambiguous making it sound like theyre putting a hangar in SAT.
#114
That/It/Thang
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“SAT is adding to our ever-growing footprint with more flights to the Lonestar State, joining Austin (AUS), Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and Houston (IAH), home to our new aircraft maintenance facility that includes our second hangar.”
IAH and DTW hangar
Everywhere else, outside.
#115
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Exactly. It’s pretty clear
“SAT is adding to our ever-growing footprint with more flights to the Lonestar State, joining Austin (AUS), Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and Houston (IAH), home to our new aircraft maintenance facility that includes our second hangar.”
IAH and DTW hangar
Everywhere else, outside.
“SAT is adding to our ever-growing footprint with more flights to the Lonestar State, joining Austin (AUS), Dallas-Fort Worth (DFW) and Houston (IAH), home to our new aircraft maintenance facility that includes our second hangar.”
IAH and DTW hangar
Everywhere else, outside.
#116
On Reserve
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The biggest problem with NK in places like DFW/DTW/ORD (which we are currently reducing) is that NK simply cannot demand a higher priced ticket. Take DFW for example, AA will simply closely match our pricing on routes we both operate. AA can do this both as a loss leader and as a subsidy where those losses can be made up somewhere else in their system. AA calls NK "The Weed" at their HQs. As a passenger shopping for a fare, when the pricing on a third party site has AA and NK closely priced, almost always a person is going to choose AA. Whether or not their product really is that much better than ours, and we know its not necessarily, a regular everyday pax would prefer travel on AA.
They can price match all they want, but they can't compete in the long term. Well... there's always bankruptcy. Which, AA will need a miracle, over the next few years to avoid it anyway.
#117
The REAL Bluedriver
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From: Airbus Capt
You make a good argument. But, this is exactly the same way new (and cheaper) airlines have always entered new markets. If I recall correctly, it just came out last week that, on a per route operational cost-basis, NK is 46% cheaper to operate than United. AA, and Legacies, can price match all they want, but they'll certainly be losing money on a per route cost. Sure, they'll keep doing it (particularly from AA towards South Florida), but they're also on track to lose more than $1 Bill this year; whilst United and Delta are expected to make profit.
They can price match all they want, but they can't compete in the long term. Well... there's always bankruptcy. Which, AA will need a miracle, over the next few years to avoid it anyway.
They can price match all they want, but they can't compete in the long term. Well... there's always bankruptcy. Which, AA will need a miracle, over the next few years to avoid it anyway.
AA's costs, as with all the legacies is double Spirit's. But so is their average revenue. I believe all three legacies reported a profit for Q2, will NK? Yes, I know JB is in the same boat. But the point stands. It should be clear to you, if you step back and look at the entire picture, that simply having the lowest CASM doesn't guarantee success.
#118
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People said 5-6-7-8 years ago, that AA would be filing bankruptcy "within the next couple years".
AA's costs, as with all the legacies is double Spirit's. But so is their average revenue. I believe all three legacies reported a profit for Q2, will NK? Yes, I know JB is in the same boat. But the point stands. It should be clear to you, if you step back and look at the entire picture, that simply having the lowest CASM doesn't guarantee success.
AA's costs, as with all the legacies is double Spirit's. But so is their average revenue. I believe all three legacies reported a profit for Q2, will NK? Yes, I know JB is in the same boat. But the point stands. It should be clear to you, if you step back and look at the entire picture, that simply having the lowest CASM doesn't guarantee success.
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