Very much like hitting critical mass - if we could actually con all the managements into it simultaneously….

FFS dude, year 1 difference is $4, top of the scale difference, fine it’s $80, I exaggerated. Are you still telling me that’s a lot? You’re not on the NC are you?

I don’t? Is there some sort of secret to reading numbers on a website?
year 1 :
mesa $100 Alaska $104

Top of the scale
mesa $220 Alaska $306

There’s other regionals that are currently topping out even higher. It’s sad that a major airline in 2022 couldn’t get a better contract.

Why is everyone from Mesa complete D bags?

Bottom feeder operation attract bottom feeder pilots

Math is really hard for you. It’s not $80. It’s more. And it takes 19 years to hit top of pay at Mesa vs 12 at Alaska. Along with other things like 5:15 ADP and 17% DC. The difference is significant.

When you’re comparing 1 year, it’s not huge. A career, however, at Mesa vs Alaska is quite enormous.

Stop comparing different years. The rates on APC are for the same year of 9/2023:

Top scale play
Mesa 217 vs Alaska 318

12 year scale pay:
Mess 191 vs Alaska 318

thats a different difference of $101 and $127 respectively.

You think the rates at Alaska should be higher based on Mesa’s rates? Do you think Alaska has the same leverage that Mesa has? Step out of your idealistic college campus view of how the world should work, and step into the real world where things like supply and demand dictate reality.

That's rich, considering what Spirit pays new hires.

Meanwhile over at F9 we have a surplus of pilots, and because of our growth rate an FO can become a captain in as little as 4 years.~Barry Biffle
I’m not expecting much improvement anytime soon.

Good for you. Surplus of pilots, but the operation is still a dumpster fire. (Don’t deny it. I have friends that are colleagues of yours) enjoy that and go troll somewhere else