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Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
(Post 3495241)
Let them play their old school games. If Alaska or a big 4 get a pay raise first it will just raise the bar. I almost don’t want to be the first Airbus pilot to get a pay raise….
Unless we get substantial raises across the board AND significant contract/QoL improvements there is no reason to be first. |
Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation
(Post 3494915)
Literally couldn't care any less.... Please tell me about the last time you were in these circumstances while the company and union attempted to negotiate a TA. We'll all sit here and wait patiently.
There's no reason to try to get others hyped up over the prospect of a TA by years end. Now if these wild circumstances make that happen then great, I'd love to be wrong but I certainly wouldn't put money on it. You should seriously consider searching this forum back to 2016-17 to get a better idea of who we're dealing with. |
Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain
(Post 3495241)
Let them play their old school games. If Alaska or a big 4 get a pay raise first it will just raise the bar. I almost don’t want to be the first Airbus pilot to get a pay raise….
A me too could also be added in case we do get leap frogged in short order. |
The biggest obstacle is that people aren’t leaving for pay only. It’s a factor, but people are leaving for seniority progression and to fly wide bodies eventually. Spirit can’t solve those problems.
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3495288)
The biggest obstacle is that people aren’t leaving for pay only. It’s a factor, but people are leaving for seniority progression and to fly wide bodies eventually. Spirit can’t solve those problems.
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3495288)
The biggest obstacle is that people aren’t leaving for pay only. It’s a factor, but people are leaving for seniority progression and to fly wide bodies eventually. Spirit can’t solve those problems.
But at a certain point, "money talks and bs walks." I think 90% of us couldnt care less if the call sign had "heavy" in it, as long as the money and qol is right. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3495374)
I agree, and thats a lump that Spirit, SWA and the like have to deal with.
But at a certain point, "money talks and bs walks." I think 90% of us couldnt care less if the call sign had "heavy" in it, as long as the money and qol is right. We don't have to solve ALL attrition and never will as long as there is 15k retirements at AA, etc, etc we just have to just have to be XX% of what we expect the new legacy rates to be, or wait to see what the legacy rates are. Though... in our unique situation, I reckon a stop gap LOA until a merger contract could possibly work too. |
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3495374)
I agree, and thats a lump that Spirit, SWA and the like have to deal with.
But at a certain point, "money talks and bs walks." I think 90% of us couldnt care less if the call sign had "heavy" in it, as long as the money and qol is right. |
Are the early open discussions solely focused on a TA or are they also talking about a mou for the short term?
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Originally Posted by JulesWinfield
(Post 3495407)
Sure, but that will never happen under this management team.
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