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W6TRP 09-15-2022 10:14 AM
Originally Posted by 93Sierra (Post 3495409)
Are the early open discussions solely focused on a TA or are they also talking about a mou for the short term?

We only know what the Union tells us.


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Halon1211 09-15-2022 10:57 AM
Originally Posted by GrumpyCaptain (Post 3495241)
Let them play their old school games. If Alaska or a big 4 get a pay raise first it will just raise the bar. I almost don’t want to be the first Airbus pilot to get a pay raise….
Only airbus? I would want to include Southwest and other Boeing operators.

king10pin02 09-15-2022 12:00 PM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3495450)
Only airbus? I would want to include Southwest and other Boeing operators.
Alaska is mostly boeing…..

OneplusF 09-15-2022 05:35 PM
Originally Posted by SSlow (Post 3494909)
And that is where I stopped reading.
Except he makes more sense than you do. I’m guessing an AIP in 90 days or less.

YellowBus 09-16-2022 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by OneplusF (Post 3495657)
Except he makes more sense than you do. I’m guessing an AIP in 90 days or less.
Just one of the many examples against everyone's "shortage will fix everything quickly" line of thinking.

After 2 years in formal Section 6 negotiations without "any meaningful headway" Southwest Airline's pilot union has voted in favor of federal mediation. - From Thursday

CincoDeMayo 09-16-2022 01:27 PM
Originally Posted by YellowBus (Post 3496148)
Just one of the many examples against everyone's "shortage will fix everything quickly" line of thinking.

After 2 years in formal Section 6 negotiations without "any meaningful headway" Southwest Airline's pilot union has voted in favor of federal mediation. - From Thursday
We have people leaving Spirit for SWA, not the other way around. People are not leaving SWA for legacy carriers the same rate they are here. So SWA's stagnation isnt comparable. A better comp for us are the regional airlines, which like us, are stepping stones currently.

Ed Force One 09-16-2022 06:46 PM
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3495412)
Go to any subforum and its pilots talking about how their management is the worst and how inept they are.
Our management is pretty close to the worst, but they are most certainly *not* inept. They're extremely ept. Like it was said, just look at what happened 5 years ago. I'll save you the boredom of yet another soapbox.

Flyboy68 09-17-2022 08:44 AM
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3496186)
A better comp for us are the regional airlines, which like us, are stepping stones currently.
This is true coming from a regional pilot.

This is verbatim coming from a current Spirit FO who has a CJO with Delta to me. “Just come to Spirit and get the type rating. The training pay and first year pay is crap, but you’ll get picked up by a major in your first year anyway.”

PossibleDeviation 09-17-2022 10:17 AM
Originally Posted by Flyboy68 (Post 3496558)
This is true coming from a regional pilot.

This is verbatim coming from a current Spirit FO who has a CJO with Delta to me. “Just come to Spirit and get the type rating. The training pay and first year pay is crap, but you’ll get picked up by a major in your first year anyway.”
I’d go to frontier to get the type and an increase in pay for the time you’re there….. but that’s just me.

canucker 09-17-2022 04:09 PM
What's the impression that with these negotiations, the training pay will be fixed?


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