Looks like +4. Alaska year 1 is 306 top rate if i recall. Realistically, we should except something similar to that, maybe a couple dollars below.

Everyone wants leaks, and we want them now…

Last check delta just had an AIP and Alaska is old news. My expectations have changed

Reps were at negotiations all day today, working with the NC. They know the numbers.

Alaska is a 3-yr contract.



Alaska DOS payrate 9/1/22 12th yr CA is $306.

DOS+1 is 9/1/2023 = $318

DOS+2 is 9/1/2024 = $331


on 9/2023 and 9/2024, snap up by averaging big 4 pay AA, DL, UA, and SW. JetBlue included only if they get a new JCBA by then. So take rates of the big 4 on those dates, divide by 4, that’s the new hourly rate if it’s higher than 318 and 331, respectively.

I’m not. In any other climate they would have everything to gain by dragging out the inevitable, and making offers they are sure we would vote down for the optics of doing something.

But time isn’t on their side. We’ve taken a hit from inflation sure, but most of us are making our mortgage and boat payments. We will hold the line until we stop flying on the back side of the pay curve.

Meanwhile planes keep coming and pilots keep leaving. I’m prepared to dig in for the long fight. If the company is smart, they’ll stop tripping over dollars to save a dime. Maybe they got smart….

So you’re saying I have no reason to wear my north face jacket anymore?

I agree and that is my standard as well, but my expectation for what we will see is probably going to be different than what we consider as the new standard, and I will vote accordingly.

I just really hope our union didn’t agree really low pay rates that are going to embarrass us to the rest of industry.


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yes I’m working on that now. One second while I check with my trusty van driver from DTW and my senior mama FA from FLL.