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ShortBusRider 12-07-2022 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3546263)
yes I’m working on that now. One second while I check with my trusty van driver from DTW and my senior mama FA from FLL.

Ole Blue hair in MSY knows everything.

Sieve 12-07-2022 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBusRider (Post 3546277)
Ole Blue hair in MSY knows everything.

Oh, Jude Blue. I think he gave me a restaurant recommendation in between conspiracy theories one time, but I was actively trying not to listen.

dualinput 12-07-2022 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by HardPassSpa (Post 3546245)
I just really hope our union didn’t agree really low pay rates that are going to embarrass us to the rest of industry.


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If they did we vote no and clean house

Bluedriver 12-07-2022 05:21 PM

Congrats guys, hope it's great.

buttonpusher68 12-07-2022 05:41 PM

So let me get this straight….there are people who think that the Delta TIA is the pay standard, but that we should also keep all our QOL provisions? Even the “Alaska or better” mantra seems to fail to consider they have several work rules in their contract that most people I have talked to wouldn’t trade into to have their pay rates. To me, the snap up provision is the most important. We are not getting Delta, ever, much less their 22% retroactive pay.

If you want Delta rates, I’m afraid you’re going to have to wear a double breasted suit and a hat…..and kiss seniority and QOL buh-bye. If you’re under 40-ish, it’s a no brainer, maybe. But for the rest of us who are in it for the long haul, I hope we will be rational in our expectations and votes.

PossibleDeviation 12-07-2022 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3546323)
So let me get this straight….there are people who think that the Delta TIA is the pay standard, but that we should also keep all our QOL provisions? Even the “Alaska or better” mantra seems to fail to consider they have several work rules in their contract that most people I have talked to wouldn’t trade into to have their pay rates. To me, the snap up provision is the most important. We are not getting Delta, ever, much less their 22% retroactive pay.

If you want Delta rates, I’m afraid you’re going to have to wear a double breasted suit and a hat…..and kiss seniority and QOL buh-bye. If you’re under 40-ish, it’s a no brainer, maybe. But for the rest of us who are in it for the long haul, I hope we will be rational in our expectations and votes.

Let’s wait and see the actual TA before beginning to rationalize why taking less than industry standard is the way to go… JFC

dualinput 12-07-2022 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3546323)
So let me get this straight….there are people who think that the Delta TIA is the pay standard, but that we should also keep all our QOL provisions? Even the “Alaska or better” mantra seems to fail to consider they have several work rules in their contract that most people I have talked to wouldn’t trade into to have their pay rates. To me, the snap up provision is the most important. We are not getting Delta, ever, much less their 22% retroactive pay.

If you want Delta rates, I’m afraid you’re going to have to wear a double breasted suit and a hat…..and kiss seniority and QOL buh-bye. If you’re under 40-ish, it’s a no brainer, maybe. But for the rest of us who are in it for the long haul, I hope we will be rational in our expectations and votes.

You are comical. Other than not getting retro bc we aren’t past our amendable date, much of what you said is complete BS. Alaska’s work rules for the most part are garbage but deltas are not at all. If you think they are I think you need to read both of our contracts side by side and get a reality check.

dualinput 12-07-2022 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3546327)
Let’s wait and see the actual TA before beginning to rationalize why taking less than industry standard is the way to go… JFC

Seriously. It’s like some people have a loan shark ready to break their legs that they’ll vote for anything. The “this is spirit” attitude is toxic and needs to quit

DrSteveBrule 12-07-2022 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3546323)
So let me get this straight….there are people who think that the Delta TIA is the pay standard, but that we should also keep all our QOL provisions? Even the “Alaska or better” mantra seems to fail to consider they have several work rules in their contract that most people I have talked to wouldn’t trade into to have their pay rates. To me, the snap up provision is the most important. We are not getting Delta, ever, much less their 22% retroactive pay.

If you want Delta rates, I’m afraid you’re going to have to wear a double breasted suit and a hat…..and kiss seniority and QOL buh-bye. If you’re under 40-ish, it’s a no brainer, maybe. But for the rest of us who are in it for the long haul, I hope we will be rational in our expectations and votes.

Im not even sure what to make of this? Somebody get Stewart Smalley in here asap!

WHACKMASTER 12-07-2022 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002 (Post 3546168)
if we are throwing out random numbers . $528.32 for captains and $204.68 first officers. Company Maxes out 401k in first 2 checks of year . 80k 3 month retro . Chic fila crew meals . (Sorry not if you’re flying Sundays. No vote for me 😂).

Take it for what it’s worth as I’m not NK, but I have a really good friend who’s banging your CEO’s secretary and he confirmed all of that plus you’re all getting a new Miata.


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