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buttonpusher68 12-07-2022 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by ShortBusRider (Post 3546403)
You need to not say this crap here. Assuming you’re actually a pilot here and not someone Ted paid to troll the forums, this is the kind of attitude that leads us to be forever bottom feeders.

Did you actually read what I wrote? I said nothing about being bottom feeders. This is not a long term comprehensive contract. If you actually read and understood what i said you would realize that I think a snap up provision is one of the most important pieces…and that prevents exactly what you are accusing me of suggesting. So, there’s that….

Lincoln Osiris 12-07-2022 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3546410)
Did you actually read what I wrote? I said nothing about being bottom feeders. This is not a long term comprehensive contract. If you actually read and understood what i said you would realize that I think a snap up provision is one of the most important pieces…and that prevents exactly what you are accusing me of suggesting. So, there’s that….

Just stop while you're behind...

ShortBusRider 12-07-2022 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by buttonpusher68 (Post 3546410)
Did you actually read what I wrote? I said nothing about being bottom feeders. This is not a long term comprehensive contract. If you actually read and understood what i said you would realize that I think a snap up provision is one of the most important pieces…and that prevents exactly what you are accusing me of suggesting. So, there’s that….

“there are people who think that the Delta TIA is the pay standard, but that we should also keep all our QOL provisions?”

Delta is the new standard. It’s what AA, UA, SWA, and everyone else will be looking at when hitting the bargaining table. You argue we couldn’t get close to that while keeping our QOL. But we all know, every other major will. So then, we will be bottom feeders in terms of pay. Snap up would be cool, but snap up to what exactly? The delta rates that you claim is out of reach? That’s the attitude you need to leave at home.

SpeedBrakes 12-07-2022 09:38 PM

I’m hearing from a few CKA that it’s a 4% pay increase across the board with 2% per year until next contract….
If so, definite NO! This isn’t even close to Delta rates.

baseball3792 12-07-2022 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3546448)
I’m hearing from a few CKA that it’s a 4% pay increase across the board with 2% per year until next contract….
If so, definite NO! This isn’t even close to Delta rates.

No way that would get close to past the MEC or NC IMO

ftaba1 12-07-2022 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by baseball3792 (Post 3546451)
No way that would get close to past the MEC or NC IMO

Or solve any pilot recruitment/attrition problems for the company.

baseball3792 12-07-2022 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by ftaba1 (Post 3546452)
Or solve any pilot recruitment/attrition problems for the company.

Only way I could see it being true is if the company and the union couldn’t come to an economic agreement and this is their version of kicking the can down the road. I’d imagine it’s something much more substantial, but we’ll see

CLE to IAH 12-07-2022 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3546448)
I’m hearing from a few CKA that it’s a 4% pay increase across the board with 2% per year until next contract….
If so, definite NO! This isn’t even close to Delta rates.

no you aren’t. It you’re gonna troll, be better.

LCA don’t know anything and neither do you

MCDUmanipulator 12-07-2022 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes (Post 3546448)
I’m hearing from a few CKA that it’s a 4% pay increase across the board with 2% per year until next contract….
If so, definite NO! This isn’t even close to Delta rates.

NC has all ready stated even current jet blue rates were never part of their proposal. So make a better troll attempt

3inchesOfFury 12-08-2022 03:30 AM

I’m guessing 15/5/5. Not where we should be but okay enough for the Union to send out for a vote. Hopefully not


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