Originally Posted by dualinput (Post 3547099)

You get what you negotiate. Keep voting yes to industry trailing contracts and you’re right. Same job, same airplane, less infrastructure and support. We should actually make more.

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3547202)

I’m not advocating for a huge pay gap like a select few on here seem to insinuate those who are trying to approach this with an open mind are. I can approach this an accept less given our work rules if it’s a couple dollars each year.

Each contact is unique and has its own value and merits. Some people act like we need delta + 1 but allow us to drop to 0 and only pick up when company pays double. End of the day I’m willing to bet spirit pilots work less than delta pilots but want to get up in arms when we don’t make as much as them.

Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 3547167)

have you ever had a life outside APC? It seems highly unlikely. There’s no way you have a good personality in person but enjoy this online personality you’ve taken. I’m sure you’d go to delta if you weren’t a human garbage can.

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3547168)

Each pilot group and company are different with different work rules. I expect our company being part of a lcc model rather than whatever model the legacies follow to be in line with other lcc contract. We won’t get delta or united or American pay. But we have more lenient work rules and a lot more flexibility than they do. You want their pay play by their rules, if spirit doesn’t want to play their rules be act like a legacies you have to be realistic in this is the company you work for. Spirit doesn’t have nearly the market share or capital that delta does. If you want delta pay work for delta. If you don’t wanna work for delta because you don’t like their bases or their work rules that’s your choice. You choose to work for a lcc and you’re giving up pay to have the qol you want. I didn’t come to spirit because they had the best pay I came because they offered a livable wage that can support the life I want to live and gave me the best qol at the time. You can’t have your cake and eat it too. Delta pilot even with “new industry leading pay” certainly give up a lot to get that pay and they work for it.

Originally Posted by onedolla (Post 3547220)

How on earth did you come to this conclusion? We still need to work at Spirit. [Practically] No one here is dropping everything they possibly can every month (and earning nothing). Those that drop pick up better options later, but they’re still working. Most pilots I know across all the majors “work” about the same per month. Unless you were referring to what we do in the cockpit, then sure, maybe we do less? I don’t know other airlines’ procedures.

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3547202)

I’m not advocating for a huge pay gap like a select few on here seem to insinuate those who are trying to approach this with an open mind are. I can approach this an accept less given our work rules if it’s a couple dollars each year.

Each contact is unique and has its own value and merits. Some people act like we need delta + 1 but allow us to drop to 0 and only pick up when company pays double. End of the day I’m willing to bet spirit pilots work less than delta pilots but want to get up in arms when we don’t make as much as them.

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3547231)

Working less meaning working a 40 credit hour month and getting paid 80 for it. So yeah working less. I didn’t say people drop and don’t work. People drop so they don’t have to be gone 18 days a month and work 80 credit hours. They drop so they can work 40 and be gone for 10 days (or less for some of the people I know) but still make mmg. That’s less than what those delta pilots are doing. Gone for longer working more hours a month.

Originally Posted by Justabusdriver1 (Post 3547231)

Working less meaning working a 40 credit hour month and getting paid 80 for it. So yeah working less. I didn’t say people drop and don’t work. People drop so they don’t have to be gone 18 days a month and work 80 credit hours. They drop so they can work 40 and be gone for 10 days (or less for some of the people I know) but still make mmg. That’s less than what those delta pilots are doing. Gone for longer working more hours a month.

Originally Posted by justabusdriver1 (Post 3547231)

working less meaning working a 40 credit hour month and getting paid 80 for it. So yeah working less. I didn’t say people drop and don’t work. People drop so they don’t have to be gone 18 days a month and work 80 credit hours. They drop so they can work 40 and be gone for 10 days (or less for some of the people i know) but still make mmg. That’s less than what those delta pilots are doing. Gone for longer working more hours a month.