We shouldn’t even be talking Alaska. Delta is the new benchmark. The CEOs say it. Media reports it. Who would have thought getting the pilots on board would be the hard part.

Amen. But my guess is we didn’t even hit AK rates.

such an embarrassment if didn’t even get AK rates.

we have a lot of people that are apparently dumber then a box of rocks.

spirit pilots will never ever ever make what delta pilots make. It’s a fact of life. Don’t like it? Go to delta.

This is real simple. We didn’t hit Alaska rates.

Not hitting at least Alaska rates would be the biggest waste of money. We’re gonna cost more and attritions gonna remain the same.

all the company really wants to do is keep new hire classes full. In exchange for a raise in the mid levels they get to significantly raise first year and training pay. Thus putting butts in seats at the training fbo

You get what you negotiate. Keep voting yes to industry trailing contracts and you’re right. Same job, same airplane, less infrastructure and support. We should actually make more.

Don't forget, if the Jetblue merger falls through for whatever reason, these are the rates we will have to live with long term.

And if we then re-enter the merger with Frontier, these are the rates we will be negotiating off of.

I have no idea what they are, but just food for thought. This mentality of the rates being "temporary until the JB merger" could turn out to be a fallacy.