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MCDUmanipulator 12-08-2022 03:49 PM
Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3547100)
Don't forget, if the Jetblue merger falls through for whatever reason, these are the rates we will have to live with long term.

And if we then re-enter the merger with Frontier, these are the rates we will be negotiating off of.

I have no idea what they are, but just food for thought. This mentality of the rates being "temporary until the JB merger" could turn out to be a fallacy.

more fake news. This will be a 2 year deal. Thus if the jetBlue deal fails. Our contract still becomes amenable

pacificapt 12-08-2022 03:52 PM
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3547109)
more fake news. This will be a 2 year deal. Thus if the jetBlue deal fails. Our contract still becomes amenable

But we won't have the leverage then.

W6TRP 12-08-2022 03:53 PM
have NK pilots ever had higher pay scales than AS, DL, UA, WN?

DrSteveBrule 12-08-2022 04:24 PM
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3547109)
more fake news. This will be a 2 year deal. Thus if the jetBlue deal fails. Our contract still becomes amenable
What do you think happens then? The company leaps and clicks its heels in its enthusiasm to help its pilots realize an industry standard deal after we already gave away the attrition leverage for what could be bottom of the industry captains rates? If the jetblue deal falls through, what we get on this one will likely be all we get for the next five years of our lives.

MainlineFlyer 12-08-2022 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3547087)
spirit pilots will never ever ever make what delta pilots make. It’s a fact of life. Don’t like it? Go to delta.

Im so glad you will be on my seniority list soon. Pilots like you and your mentality is what is keeping NK and soon B6 down.

CLE to IAH 12-08-2022 04:40 PM
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3547087)
spirit pilots will never ever ever make what delta pilots make. It’s a fact of life. Don’t like it? Go to delta.
this is why. This attitude right here.


im not worth less than a delta a320 pilot just because he wears a hat and looks the other way in the terminal.

Justabusdriver1 12-08-2022 04:43 PM
Originally Posted by Ed Force One (Post 3547100)
Don't forget, if the Jetblue merger falls through for whatever reason, these are the rates we will have to live with long term.

And if we then re-enter the merger with Frontier, these are the rates we will be negotiating off of.

I have no idea what they are, but just food for thought. This mentality of the rates being "temporary until the JB merger" could turn out to be a fallacy.
I think your assumption is that there wouldn’t be a fails safe that if the merger fails we go back to the table. This is probably at best a 2 year deal assuming we either merge and negotiate a jcba or the merger fails and we go back to the table with spirit. So no I doubt these rates should be considered longer term

Halon1211 12-08-2022 04:49 PM
Originally Posted by CLE to IAH (Post 3547152)
this is why. This attitude right here.


im not worth less than a delta a320 pilot just because he wears a hat and looks the other way in the terminal.
apparently you are.


this proves my hat theory.

how much money are you throwing away because you don’t wear “The Hat”

AllOva736 12-08-2022 05:01 PM
Originally Posted by MCDUmanipulator (Post 3547109)
more fake news. This will be a 2 year deal. Thus if the jetBlue deal fails. Our contract still becomes amenable
Your situational awareness is terrifying.

AllOva736 12-08-2022 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by Halon1211 (Post 3547161)
apparently you are.


this proves my hat theory.

how much money are you throwing away because you don’t wear “The Hat”
have you ever had a life outside APC? It seems highly unlikely. There’s no way you have a good personality in person but enjoy this online personality you’ve taken. I’m sure you’d go to delta if you weren’t a human garbage can.


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