Less than 1 year FO: "I just got hired at Delta but since Spirit gave me this 10k new hire bonus you know what screw it I'm gonna stay!" ... Sounds plausible right? :D

If I were to guess, given that they weren’t willing to go higher, they think that these payscales are better for them than bonuses, but at some point, it may be that bonuses make more financial sense. Just a guess. We do have leverage, but ultimately, we can only get paid what management is willing to offer, given that we aren’t anywhere near the end of an RLA process.

Wrong again, you don't get to vote anyway. Now go study for your OE.

This thing is a hard NO

Who said they aren’t willing to go higher

For starters your company is at the table because legally they have to be. Read your early opener language. I can’t remember the last time Alpa didn’t open early when given the opportunity. Second where did I ever mention bonuses fixing first year pay? In no way were those facts meant to be a scare tactic. I’m not sure why it scared you? Most people would see it as giving bonuses might not be legal because I keep telling you it’s being challenged. Good luck.

Where does it talk about early openers in our contract what section specifically? Where do you work again?

I work at f9 but have worked on more than one Alpa agreement. More than likely you have a 6 month early opener? Possibly but unlikely 1 year. The intent is always to get an agreement before the amendable date and just roll into the new agreement. Rarely happens for obvious reasons. I’m just trying to provide some information to your group. You can draw your own conclusions but it is accurate information.

Yea I can't find it can you tell me where it is? What sub section? Since you know everything :D

And if you did actually work on ALPA agreements in the past than you of all people should know that what happens to one unions contract affects everyone else's. You really think it's going to help F9 negotiations if NK accepts a garbage contract? Think again Mr. Alpa agreement man.