Some of us have been doing this for nearly 25 years but I do appreciate the description of the well defined process. I learned a whole bunch.

As it happens, the MEC appears to be pleased with the outcome. No need for new negotiators.

Which is not only a concession, but the MEC is lying to us about it as well.

Nice to see that’s one of the few sections “effective immediately.” They sure didn’t want to wait for 2024 for that one :rolleyes:

Them being able to adjust 1st year pay is %1000 a concession. We have that at F9 and it has removed some of our leverage. If you're going to be giving that away, might as well get what you want.

Aren’t they also giving new hires massive signing bonuses?

One of my concerns is if we end up rejecting this, they might just turn to massive new hire bonuses with strings attached instead of bothering to negotiate with us. I’m not sure you guys will even have a new contract before we get a JCBA.

Absolutely they will.

Jesus christ please both of you if you actually work here go read the cba.

They can get around the CBA by doing day zero bonuses. That’s what a lot of these airlines are doing now.

Omg dude their problem isn't getting people in the door its getting them to stay. Take your management fear mongering somewhere else. No one is falling for your crap anymore.

What exactly is stopping them? What’s rejecting it have to do with them offering pre-employment bonuses like Frontier?