International Overide
 

International override? Did I miss it somewhere? I didn't see it specifically mentioned, other than the "no concessions" statement. Still 8% Caribbean, Cuba, et al excluded? Is this considered a road show question? How about a Zoom road show? Too easy for management to log on over some rats shoulder?

How is the huge and exclusive increase in withholding pairings for training "only Latin American Route Qualification" and it's over ride not a concession to those that can hold international flying by virtue of seniority not a concession?

Shouldn't KLGA , KBUR, KATL, KORD, KLAX, KEWR, and every other goat rope where new guys actually will fly to and get in trouble be exclusively withheld?

RIP Pebbles. Someone had to say it. Pebbles will always be in our hearts.

Paid uniforms though, so you won’t have union guys coming to new hire classes donating uniforms like the Salvation Army.

Way too low
 

This pay is way too low for me to consider seriously. I am a hard no. We don't even have a snap up to JetBlue.

I'm thinking that if this turd even makes it to a vote it will make us look like a laughing stock. Let alone just voting it down. Read the room alpa.

You mean read the small hand full of “No Voter” trolls on here who know that know it’s going to pass so they are going down kicking and screaming.

I’m not so sure it’s a small handful of no voters. I’m voting no, unless something changes, snap up, more money, etc..

In the AIP poll thread, about 28% of those polled are yes voters and 72% are no voters. But that’s out of 137 people taking the poll, not all of whom may even be NK pilots and even if they are that’s maybe 3% of the pilot group, and not necessarily a representative sample.

So what do you think the actual vote will turn out to be, irrespective of what you think it OUGHT to be?

I’m guessing closer to 72% yes and 28% no, based on what I’m hearing.

lol you think some vote that was posted on an anonymous chat forum is going to be anywhere representative of what the actual vote is going to be. That’s cute 🥰

Clearly you haven't been on any of the telegram chats.