“Arguably, it is possible that management could decide to return to the bargaining table quickly and offer more money. But throughout negotiations we need to deal with probabilities rather than possibilities. Based on our collective experience, and due to Spirit’s current financial situation, in our opinion this is unlikely. And in the unlikely event they are open to improving the TA, it may not happen on a timetable that is acceptable to our pilot group. We can look to the UAL negotiations as a recent example. The UAL/ALPA TA was put out for pilot ratification in June and then voted down. The parties have returned to the bargaining table, but to date no new TA has been announced and the timetable for one is unclear.” -SPA_ExecSummary

Don’t be unrealistic guys. If I could vote it would be a yes and then come back to the table during the successful or failed merger. Y’all can argue for Delta plus in about two years.

 

They must be realllllly concerned about the current vote tally….

 

Looks that way, doesn’t it. Hopefully people vote on what’s in front of them.

 

I assume this was all pre-planned. They’re putting out information (in favor of their point of view) slowly and consistently to try to sway opinions (disclaimer, I agree with their opinion).

 

In Happy Gilmore terms we call this, "just tap it in, just tap it in"

 

Heard an interesting thing on my last trip. Theory that if the JB NE alliance goes through, they'll use it as leverage with the feds to disband it and to rubber stamp the merger faster. If that happens, we'll be locked into whatever we have at the time since we will be under JB control. Not sure what the time line could be with this to happen but an interesting situation if it expedites fed approval, delaying a TA for a few more bucks could really hurt over the next few years.

 

My favorite part is using United as an example… you know, the pilot group who had to recall their leadership to finally get a something worthwhile…

 

We'll get em next time!

 

In this industry you will never “get ‘em next time”, especially when you have a limitless goal post. You in particular will always want more. Let the “yes” voters have a voice and stop canceling peoples opinions that are opposite of yours.

 

I didn't cancel anyone. Yes and No voters have the same voting power. I just think it's funny that our union lanyards say "Building Our Legacy", but the first 30 minutes of the road show is the union telling us we aren't in the same league as legacies. Meanwhile, Ted is one of the highest paid CEOs in the industry and can't turn a profit.