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01-10-2023 | 09:46 AM
#291
That/It/Thang
Joined: Aug 2020
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Be a good boy and vote in that TA, daddy wants that snap up in the JCBA when we become a happy family. Run along, make it happen.
01-10-2023 | 10:06 AM
#292
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 746
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sorry meant. This is a 2 year deal with a stipulation of right back to the table if b6 falls through. This isn’t a 5 year stuck behind the industry type deal. It might take others a year before a TA, who knows what happens with the economy in the meantime. This contract is crap as a 5 year standard deal but it isn’t. We will be mid cycle now and have great leverage for a JCBA or standalone NK.
01-10-2023 | 10:09 AM
#293
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2017
Posts: 193
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Ever? We will never bargain for another contract like it says we have to in two years or when the JB merger fails? Good. It will be easier to prove to a mediator the company isn’t bargaining in good faith and we can get released. I’m also hoping they do raise first year pay, so when we do bargain again that will be the new bottom.
01-10-2023 | 11:11 AM
#294
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 418
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Ever? We will never bargain for another contract like it says we have to in two years or when the JB merger fails? Good. It will be easier to prove to a mediator the company isn’t bargaining in good faith and we can get released. I’m also hoping they do raise first year pay, so when we do bargain again that will be the new bottom.
01-10-2023 | 11:34 AM
#295
Perennial Reserve
Joined: Jan 2018
Posts: 14,174
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Every dollar going to the pilot group raises the bar for the next contract so yeah. Besides, JCBAs have a leverage all their own.
01-10-2023 | 11:45 AM
#297
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Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 730
Likes: 59
From: Office Chair
sorry meant. This is a 2 year deal with a stipulation of right back to the table if b6 falls through. This isn’t a 5 year stuck behind the industry type deal. It might take others a year before a TA, who knows what happens with the economy in the meantime. This contract is crap as a 5 year standard deal but it isn’t. We will be mid cycle now and have great leverage for a JCBA or standalone NK.
01-10-2023 | 11:59 AM
#298
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Oct 2019
Posts: 439
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The only way they'll be rushing back to the table in 2 years is to ask for concessions on industry-trailing rates if this merger doesn't happen. This management group has shown they can't run a consistently profitable airline, and somehow that is supposed to justify our underwhelming ask. This could easily be a 5-year deal in the case the merger falters.
01-10-2023 | 12:04 PM
#299
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,691
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no your are right. We will instead use the fact you knowingly approved an inferior contract while we had a better offer on the table.
thank you for solidifying your career expectations.
If you expect our MEC to put forth any effort at all to bring you guys up during the TPA negotiations you are insane. You had your chance 2 months ago. Your union leadership sold you a bill of goods and I would put a paycheck bet on no financial gains during TPA.
01-10-2023 | 12:07 PM
#300
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Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 200
Likes: 1
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