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Old 10-08-2023 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Thanks guys. Looks like it averages about 30 hours per vacation week.

Like that you can designate how much to allocate to each week.

I think the takeaway is some years of longevity JB-NK have the same number of weeks. In those years JB credits more vacation. In the years where NK gets more weeks, they have the advantage in some ways.

JB gets a lot of hours for each week of vacation. The NK system of accruing a variable rate of hour per week based on longevity might be a way to get more weeks of vacation sooner while still keeping the high weekly credit. I really like the high credit per week because you get more of the month off when you have a vacation. But I also want more weeks, sooner in longevity.

​​​​​​Haven't looked at how allocation of weeks available for bidding compares, I do think JB distributes weeks throughout the year well. And certainly JB has an advantage in PTO/sick. And yet JB still doesn't get enough. Room for improvement there.

Shifting gears...

What are NK's requirement for TPS reports?

page 62 has a graph that explains all in picture form.
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Old 10-08-2023 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
As it stands, our reserve pilots will never be able to drop reserves. NC didn’t negotiate it away, we lost it in arbitration since our pilot group decided to leap frog their reserve days making them unusable the entire month and creating a bunch or premium trip unnecessarily.

This is an opportunity at a fresh start, but I wouldn’t want anything compromise DTZ. You can speak with your rep as you see fit though!
You still don't get it. Dropping and swapping RSV days is current JB book, and it's NOT going away.


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Old 10-08-2023 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
You still don't get it. Dropping and swapping RSV days is current JB book, and it's NOT going away.


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I was giving insight as to why our reserves don’t drop or swap. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

You also can’t make claims like “it’s not going away.” You nor does anyone else know what’s staying or going away. Just relax, man
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Old 10-08-2023 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
I was giving insight as to why our reserves don’t drop or swap. Don’t get your panties in a bunch.

You also can’t make claims like “it’s not going away.” You nor does anyone else know what’s staying or going away. Just relax, man
Shhh he’s on a roll.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation, but that won’t stop bluedriver from latching on to the idea that dtz only works if reserve conditions are horrible.
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Old 10-08-2023 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Shhh he’s on a roll.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation, but that won’t stop bluedriver from latching on to the idea that dtz only works if reserve conditions are horrible.
You’re right, what was I thinking? Haha
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Old 10-08-2023 | 03:00 PM
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We also get 2 inviolate days with each vacation week that can be distributed how your like i.e. both in front, both in back or one on each side, also I think you can choose to have them paid or not if I remember right so long story short your 7 days of vacay are actually 9 also you can shift your vacation left or right, never done it myself so someone else would need to elaborate
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Old 10-08-2023 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
We also get 2 inviolate days with each vacation week that can be distributed how your like i.e. both in front, both in back or one on each side, also I think you can choose to have them paid or not if I remember right so long story short your 7 days of vacay are actually 9 also you can shift your vacation left or right, never done it myself so someone else would need to elaborate
Inviolate days must have credit assigned to them. This can be either from banked vacation time, or you can reduce the credit of the vacation week and reallocate it to those inviolate days.

Vacation weeks can be shifted up to three days either direction.
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Old 10-08-2023 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Inviolate days must have credit assigned to them. This can be either from banked vacation time, or you can reduce the credit of the vacation week and reallocate it to those inviolate days.

Vacation weeks can be shifted up to three days either direction.
99.99% sure they can be unpaid, since that's what I chose
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Old 10-08-2023 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BananaHammock
99.99% sure they can be unpaid, since that's what I chose
line holders can choose whether the INV days are paid or not (comes out of vacation credit). If a reserve chooses to add INV days to a vacation week, they will be paid. There isn’t a choice for reserves
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Old 10-08-2023 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RemoveB4flght
Shhh he’s on a roll.

Correlation doesn’t equal causation, but that won’t stop bluedriver from latching on to the idea that dtz only works if reserve conditions are horrible.
I am not making that argument. But some of YOUR OWN have admitted as much. Maybe you are referring to a Bluediver post. Simply saying that in the JCBA, RSVs will be able to drop and swap RSV days. I'll bet money on it

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