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Old 10-26-2023 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 69fastback
Nope. I suppose you thought my first post was a lucky guess…..
You didn’t know ****. You read the previous email like the rest of us and we all knew they would say what those measures would be eventually. “More to come”. You don’t know any more than the rest of us. So I say again, cool it with the drama queen antics.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cranberry
The economy that had 4.9% GDP growth, and UA/DL making solid profits?
exactly what I was thinking. The economy is just fine it seems. It’s our product and management that’s the problem. If we weren’t parking airplanes that hopefully will be paid for by PW we would be bankrupt sooner than later
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Old 10-26-2023 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
We are trying to drop the “U,” and it isn’t like JBLU is financially kicking butt to be the airline with the most grounded NEOs, a huge integration process ahead of them, and a costly fleet refit.
Ted and Co are die hard ULCC. They aren’t doing this JB thing willingly. They would run this airline right into the ground before they changed the garbage we are selling in the back.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 04:30 PM
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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...he-end-of-2025

I take it that the ability to change the removal of the remaining A319s from the fleet next year is not an option? 15 A319s are to be removed in 2024 per the article.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 04:30 PM
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Not a loaded question, just curious of opinions. Likely redundancies?
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Old 10-26-2023 | 04:31 PM
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[QUOTE=AR1978;3715976]https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...he-end-of-2025

I take it that the ability to change the removal of the remaining A319s from the fleet next year is not an option? 15 A319s are to be removed in 2024 per the article.[/QUOTE
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Stop talking logically right now young man!
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Old 10-26-2023 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris
You didn’t know ****. You read the previous email like the rest of us and we all knew they would say what those measures would be eventually. “More to come”. You don’t know any more than the rest of us. So I say again, cool it with the drama queen antics.

Yep, that’s it.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AR1978
https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...he-end-of-2025

I take it that the ability to change the removal of the remaining A319s from the fleet next year is not an option? 15 A319s are to be removed in 2024 per the article.
They don’t want them. They have expensive inspections coming up to keep them in service. The thing is that people literally don’t want to fly on us. The neo issue isn’t great but if we didn’t have this neo issue the company would be even worse off imo. We’d be parking airplanes for lack of demand instead of engines. At least this way maybe we get a nice check from PW
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Old 10-26-2023 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
exactly what I was thinking. The economy is just fine it seems. It’s our product and management that’s the problem. If we weren’t parking airplanes that hopefully will be paid for by PW we would be bankrupt sooner than later
lol the economy is fine!!! Haha that’s funny dude.

https://investorplace.com/2023/10/go...or-goog-stock/


https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/tech-layoffs

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/...-san-jose.html

https://omaha.com/news/local/busines...80fccd413.html


sorry I’m only going to post a few…I think you get the picture.

this is just the beginning…the recession is coming. The big three are able to stay afloat longer because of their Europe flying and more diverse flying but they will too succumb to the economy.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 05:35 PM
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Maybe if we served some of the more popular destinations like MSY DEN ORD etc more than just once a day instead of flying half empty planes to/from South American airports we would be able to turn a profit. Why do we fly 2 flights a day to/from DFW to FLL? Those planes are always full.. how about more frequent flights between IAH or DFW to MSY? Again always full but yet we keep sending half full planes down to Central America and base 90 pct of our business model in MCO and FLL… there are plenty of other destinations we can serve that don’t have to flow through FL but yet the upper mgt refuses to budge from thinking that FL is only place our passengers want to go…try to fly to the Pacific Northwest and you have to go through Vegas? Why???? Management doesn’t care and the people who figure out our routes need to get their head checked. Friend wanted to fly from DFW to MSY on our 1 flight a day, but to get back to DFW they had to connect through FLL… no wonder people don’t fly on us as management makes it impossible to travel,to/from destinations other than LAS FLL air MCO without it being a pain i the butt. Rant over flame away if you must but until Spirit stops thinking the world revolves around over saturated often weather limited FL they will have a hard time turning a profit.
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