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Old 10-26-2023 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chesty
Maybe if we served some of the more popular destinations like MSY DEN ORD etc more than just once a day instead of flying half empty planes to/from South American airports we would be able to turn a profit. Why do we fly 2 flights a day to/from DFW to FLL? Those planes are always full.. how about more frequent flights between IAH or DFW to MSY? Again always full but yet we keep sending half full planes down to Central America and base 90 pct of our business model in MCO and FLL… there are plenty of other destinations we can serve that don’t have to flow through FL but yet the upper mgt refuses to budge from thinking that FL is only place our passengers want to go…try to fly to the Pacific Northwest and you have to go through Vegas? Why???? Management doesn’t care and the people who figure out our routes need to get their head checked. Friend wanted to fly from DFW to MSY on our 1 flight a day, but to get back to DFW they had to connect through FLL… no wonder people don’t fly on us as management makes it impossible to travel,to/from destinations other than LAS FLL air MCO without it being a pain i the butt. Rant over flame away if you must but until Spirit stops thinking the world revolves around over saturated often weather limited FL they will have a hard time turning a profit.

my flights to/from Latin America have been pretty full lately…

heck we even upgraded to an A321 on PAP, we got to get them Biden voters back to the US and make them make them citizens.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by chesty
Maybe if we served some of the more popular destinations like MSY DEN ORD etc more than just once a day instead of flying half empty planes to/from South American airports we would be able to turn a profit. Why do we fly 2 flights a day to/from DFW to FLL? Those planes are always full.. how about more frequent flights between IAH or DFW to MSY? Again always full but yet we keep sending half full planes down to Central America and base 90 pct of our business model in MCO and FLL… there are plenty of other destinations we can serve that don’t have to flow through FL but yet the upper mgt refuses to budge from thinking that FL is only place our passengers want to go…try to fly to the Pacific Northwest and you have to go through Vegas? Why???? Management doesn’t care and the people who figure out our routes need to get their head checked. Friend wanted to fly from DFW to MSY on our 1 flight a day, but to get back to DFW they had to connect through FLL… no wonder people don’t fly on us as management makes it impossible to travel,to/from destinations other than LAS FLL air MCO without it being a pain i the butt. Rant over flame away if you must but until Spirit stops thinking the world revolves around over saturated often weather limited FL they will have a hard time turning a profit.
All probably true
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Old 10-26-2023 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
Ted and Co are die hard ULCC. They aren’t doing this JB thing willingly. They would run this airline right into the ground before they changed the garbage we are selling in the back.
I think you're off on this one

Ted and Co are die hard getting paid, which means doing whatever is required to see this merger through and bounce with a fat payday. They are looking out for number 1, which is exactly what all of us need to be doing and should have been doing.

"How can I extract as much money as possible this pay period and go on about my life" is how you should be viewing your employment. I swear pilots are the worst about worrying over the business side of things, which we have zero control over, and sharing unqualified opinions of how to run a company.

ULCC this...LCC that

"This makes money, but that doesn't" cockpit jockeys who vote yes on whatever is presented to them because they think they know how to run an airline

All I know is what I should be getting paid and working every angle I can to get there
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Old 10-26-2023 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
lol the economy is fine!!! Haha that’s funny dude.

https://investorplace.com/2023/10/go...or-goog-stock/


https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/tech-layoffs

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/...-san-jose.html

https://omaha.com/news/local/busines...80fccd413.html


sorry I’m only going to post a few…I think you get the picture.

this is just the beginning…the recession is coming. The big three are able to stay afloat longer because of their Europe flying and more diverse flying but they will too succumb to the economy.
Rookie stuff here. On APC you need only one Zerohedge link on US Economy to ‘own’ the argument.
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Old 10-26-2023 | 08:10 PM
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Hey MEC, does today’s news mean we won’t be seeing that bigger bite of the apple anytime soon???

What a F’ing joke
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Old 10-27-2023 | 04:17 AM
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Better jump to a legacy while you still can.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SpeedBrakes
Hey MEC, does today’s news mean we won’t be seeing that bigger bite of the apple anytime soon???

What a F’ing joke
dumb comment. We were never getting a bigger bite of the apple until we were in the hands of Jetblue.

shows how much you paid attention.
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Old 10-27-2023 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Halon1211
dumb comment. We were never getting a bigger bite of the apple until we were in the hands of Jetblue.

shows how much you paid attention.
But the "quid" still comes as a standalone Spirit though, correct?
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Old 10-27-2023 | 06:42 AM
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For the smarter legal guys & gals here, could any of the "doom & gloom" stuff on the spirit side have any impact on the merger trial? Or is it all irrelevant towards the DOJs case?
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Old 10-27-2023 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
The thing is that people literally don’t want to fly on us.
as a commuter that works for a legacy, I’ve used Spirit quite a few times. I have to say that the pilots, FAs, and Gate Agents are absolutely wonderful to me. Like, fantastically nice and helpful.

while standing at the gate, doing the people watching, I can honestly say that I’ve never seen so many hairnets and onesies (camo onesies, even). Add in some fluffy slippers and the picture is complete.

I’ve also, on more than one occasion, seen people get charged for carry on luggage during the boarding process, and every single time the customer is flabbergasted at the price for their two small bags ($180-ish, if I remember correctly). I know the pricing is listed when you buy a ticket, and I’m not saying the customer is right, but when that happens, it becomes pretty clear that the pricing model (from a consumer standpoint) only works if you have nothing to bring.

Why spend $200 on tickets, then have to spend another $200 on luggage (each way), when you could have just bought a ticket on another major carrier and have a better overall experience? One couple next to me got a sprite and some hummus/chips and it was like $15. Amusement Park pricing.

anyway, I really hope it all works out for all you Spirit employees. I have nothing but good to say about any of you I’ve ever come across.
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