Where is ALPA?
04-09-2024 | 12:03 PM
#201
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And don’t be a moron. They didn’t stop hiring because of the economy, or because they are losing their a$& like Spirit is, they stopped because Airbus and Boeing suck and are behind. Once they get caught up the Legacies will go right on back to hiring 200 a month each.
04-09-2024 | 12:08 PM
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United is offering some type of reduction in force program. Delta has similarly reduced block hours and has offered more generous time-off programs; the same thing goes at American, FedEx - you name it.
The 260 "Furloughs" will likely be met through attrition. 130 Captains will downgrade to F/O on 01 September; the additional 130 furloughs, *if they do* occur will be balanced through through 2025. Much ado about nothing - ALPA negotiations are ongoing and few, if any furloughs will occur. The Company expects much of the overage in staffing in the pilot group to be attained through retirements, attrition and voluntary leave programs. Much ado about nothing.
No furloughs in the Flight Attendant workgroup; all staffing levels are attained through voluntary leaves.
Where can you direct me to Spirit filing bankruptcy via Chapter 11 of the US Federal Code? It was never a reality - yet - every airline and every company could declare bankruptcy at any time for any reason. This isn't Sears, and, this isn't the 70's anymore. You need to rethink what "bankruptcy" means. Every airline has declared bankruptcy, continues to operate and reduce its cost structure. Your statements underscore your limited knowledge base.
It is 2024, not 1985. The days of Braniff, Pan Am, et al are gone as is the old Bankruptcy code. Get with the times, beat it stupid.
The 260 "Furloughs" will likely be met through attrition. 130 Captains will downgrade to F/O on 01 September; the additional 130 furloughs, *if they do* occur will be balanced through through 2025. Much ado about nothing - ALPA negotiations are ongoing and few, if any furloughs will occur. The Company expects much of the overage in staffing in the pilot group to be attained through retirements, attrition and voluntary leave programs. Much ado about nothing.
No furloughs in the Flight Attendant workgroup; all staffing levels are attained through voluntary leaves.
Where can you direct me to Spirit filing bankruptcy via Chapter 11 of the US Federal Code? It was never a reality - yet - every airline and every company could declare bankruptcy at any time for any reason. This isn't Sears, and, this isn't the 70's anymore. You need to rethink what "bankruptcy" means. Every airline has declared bankruptcy, continues to operate and reduce its cost structure. Your statements underscore your limited knowledge base.
It is 2024, not 1985. The days of Braniff, Pan Am, et al are gone as is the old Bankruptcy code. Get with the times, beat it stupid.
04-09-2024 | 12:23 PM
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04-09-2024 | 12:40 PM
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HA officially only hiring from a pool the rest of the year. Cancelled all previous new hire vacancies. Overstaffed on the 330 PAX due to reduction in augmented flying. For those interested.
04-09-2024 | 12:56 PM
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2. The NEO Problem- By the end of the year Spirit will have 46 airplanes parked, that’s about 25% of the current fleet. By the end of next year, they will have over 90 NEOs of the fleet parked, almost half. And The 300 day turn around time from Pratt just became a 400 day turn around. This NEO problem will also be a huge show stopper for any other airlines interested in merging with Spirit.
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04-09-2024 | 04:27 PM
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Do you know if they are cancelling future interviews? I have one on the calander but havent heard anything from recruiting
04-09-2024 | 04:35 PM
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United is offering some type of reduction in force program. Delta has similarly reduced block hours and has offered more generous time-off programs; the same thing goes at American, FedEx - you name it.
The 260 "Furloughs" will likely be met through attrition. 130 Captains will downgrade to F/O on 01 September; the additional 130 furloughs, *if they do* occur will be balanced through through 2025. Much ado about nothing - ALPA negotiations are ongoing and few, if any furloughs will occur. The Company expects much of the overage in staffing in the pilot group to be attained through retirements, attrition and voluntary leave programs. Much ado about nothing.
No furloughs in the Flight Attendant workgroup; all staffing levels are attained through voluntary leaves.
Where can you direct me to Spirit filing bankruptcy via Chapter 11 of the US Federal Code? It was never a reality - yet - every airline and every company could declare bankruptcy at any time for any reason. This isn't Sears, and, this isn't the 70's anymore. You need to rethink what "bankruptcy" means. Every airline has declared bankruptcy, continues to operate and reduce its cost structure. Your statements underscore your limited knowledge base.
It is 2024, not 1985. The days of Braniff, Pan Am, et al are gone as is the old Bankruptcy code. Get with the times, beat it stupid.
The 260 "Furloughs" will likely be met through attrition. 130 Captains will downgrade to F/O on 01 September; the additional 130 furloughs, *if they do* occur will be balanced through through 2025. Much ado about nothing - ALPA negotiations are ongoing and few, if any furloughs will occur. The Company expects much of the overage in staffing in the pilot group to be attained through retirements, attrition and voluntary leave programs. Much ado about nothing.
No furloughs in the Flight Attendant workgroup; all staffing levels are attained through voluntary leaves.
Where can you direct me to Spirit filing bankruptcy via Chapter 11 of the US Federal Code? It was never a reality - yet - every airline and every company could declare bankruptcy at any time for any reason. This isn't Sears, and, this isn't the 70's anymore. You need to rethink what "bankruptcy" means. Every airline has declared bankruptcy, continues to operate and reduce its cost structure. Your statements underscore your limited knowledge base.
It is 2024, not 1985. The days of Braniff, Pan Am, et al are gone as is the old Bankruptcy code. Get with the times, beat it stupid.
Now to Cat pilot. I'm at DAL. No one here is "offering" any sort of "generous time off" programs for pilots. We just had a semi meltdown over last weekend. Lack of crews. If you're aware of the name of the "generous time off program" my air line is offering our pilots I'm all ears. I'm here, and we are not seeing that.
Reduced block hours? happens every shoulder period. We're ramping up for May though. Not sure where you get your info from.
04-09-2024 | 05:36 PM
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I’m at DAL and they are not offering any time off programs-generous or not. My category has a pre summer ALV of 80:45 for May. Some people like to work that much. I don’t. I feel bad for the what the Spirit group of pilots is going through so soon after Covid. I wish them either safe harbor somewhere else or a quick resolution to their problems there. The last sentence of your post is much more telling about you than the OP.
04-09-2024 | 05:52 PM
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[QUOTE=Hotel Kilo;3790952]First of all, I'm sorry to hear this for you folks at NK. I hope normal attitrion thru retirements and pilots moving on to other carriers helps. This sucks. For all of us.
Ditto to this. Also curious to where reduced flying lines at AA are. We have zero hour lines in the new contract, but we are not reducing flying or offering pilots any “deals” to not work.
Ditto to this. Also curious to where reduced flying lines at AA are. We have zero hour lines in the new contract, but we are not reducing flying or offering pilots any “deals” to not work.
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