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BusBoi 01-09-2025 09:41 AM

I'm sure the company and union will say something at some point.

CAirBear 01-10-2025 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3868149)
bingo! Guy who said he “only” works 3 four days a month sounds like pure misery

lmao! I worked at Allegiant for 2 years prior to my time at NK. Day trips suck ass and are extremely over rated. To each their own.

It was always amazing to me how many guys I flew with that lived a solid 30-45 mins or even more from the airport. 1.5 hours a day in their cars. Never mind the extra time and BS to get from the $hitty employee lot to the terminal then trek it all the way to the gate and back when your done.

Day trips sound great on paper. I get it. But the reality is, unless you have super easy premo trips and live 5-10 mins from the airport, it really isn’t. It’s a glorified “overnight” at home.

If you think having 18-19 off a month, but having to work a few 4 days a month sucks for me, I don’t know what to tell you lol. My QOL is exponentially improved verses “bEiNg hOmE EvErYnIgHt” 🤷🏻‍♂️

VacancyBid 01-10-2025 03:04 AM

The allure of day trips is super high credit. 23 days a month off type stuff for ny-carribean turns

Judge Smails 01-10-2025 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by VacancyBid (Post 3869220)
The allure of day trips is super high credit. 23 days a month off type stuff for ny-carribean turns

I think that’s what the previous comment was saying. The juice has to be worth the squeeze.

Judge Smails 01-10-2025 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3868946)
“complaining” is a stretch.

Simply stating that if jobs are being saved and downgraded are being prevented, maybe the company or ALPA should share some of the positive news. APC Spirit sub forums shouldn’t be the source of a positive note in the sinking airline.

Furlough cancellation news is on the company, not ALPA. The company changes these numbers, it’s on them to report it.

gonyon 01-10-2025 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3869211)
lmao! I worked at Allegiant for 2 years prior to my time at NK. Day trips suck ass and are extremely over rated. To each their own.

It was always amazing to me how many guys I flew with that lived a solid 30-45 mins or even more from the airport. 1.5 hours a day in their cars. Never mind the extra time and BS to get from the $hitty employee lot to the terminal then trek it all the way to the gate and back when your done.

Day trips sound great on paper. I get it. But the reality is, unless you have super easy premo trips and live 5-10 mins from the airport, it really isn’t. It’s a glorified “overnight” at home.

If you think having 18-19 off a month, but having to work a few 4 days a month sucks for me, I don’t know what to tell you lol. My QOL is exponentially improved verses “bEiNg hOmE EvErYnIgHt” 🤷🏻‍♂️

I haven’t had the pleasure of doing all day trips but this is where my head is at with them. I think if you can get fat credit day trips and have a day off in between working 11 days a month they would be nice. But if you’re out here doing 11-12 hr duty/min daily credit 4 leggers consecutive days in a row every week with just enough time to scrub your balls proper in between……it’s absolutely not worth it.

CincoDeMayo 01-10-2025 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Judge Smails (Post 3869239)
Furlough cancellation news is on the company, not ALPA. The company changes these numbers, it’s on them to report it.

Too bad SPA ALPA has already set a precedent of announcing furlough cancelations. 7/1 FastRead, titled “Furlough Cancelations”

And whenever the company implements a provision that is included in an ALPA MOU, like these cancellations, SPA ALPA should report it.

checkgear 01-10-2025 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo (Post 3869290)
Too bad SPA ALPA has already set a precedent of announcing furlough cancelations. 7/1 FastRead, titled “Furlough Cancelations”

And whenever the company implements a provision that is included in an ALPA MOU, like these cancellations, SPA ALPA should report it.

Have they? That 7/1 FastRead is a simple copy and paste of the Furlough Cancellation section from the FML MOU. Didn’t specify any numbers at all.

The 12/24 Strength in Unity email contained an updated amount of furlough cancellations (32) which included those cancelled in the first round.

SSlow 01-10-2025 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by CAirBear (Post 3869211)
lmao! I worked at Allegiant for 2 years prior to my time at NK. Day trips suck ass and are extremely over rated. To each their own.

It was always amazing to me how many guys I flew with that lived a solid 30-45 mins or even more from the airport. 1.5 hours a day in their cars. Never mind the extra time and BS to get from the $hitty employee lot to the terminal then trek it all the way to the gate and back when your done.

Day trips sound great on paper. I get it. But the reality is, unless you have super easy premo trips and live 5-10 mins from the airport, it really isn’t. It’s a glorified “overnight” at home.

If you think having 18-19 off a month, but having to work a few 4 days a month sucks for me, I don’t know what to tell you lol. My QOL is exponentially improved verses “bEiNg hOmE EvErYnIgHt” 🤷🏻‍♂️

You've got to have the right setup for it to be worth it, otherwise nah.

I also think that some enjoy the novelty of being gone on layovers, because they grew up thinking that is just how life would be as an airline pilot. Nothing wrong with that either.

Personally, I don't sleep quite as well in hotels as I do at home. There's always some weird noise, or the blackout shades don't cover the window properly, or someone slamming doors in the hallway. I don't have any of these issues at my home.

hercretired 01-10-2025 08:59 AM

Day trips suck in many ways.

1. I joined this line of work to see new cities and places, AWAY from the airport. See some local sights, try a new restaurant. Not the food court of an airport, haul ass to the gate, and depart again. "Chick Fil A is near our gate, haul ass bro, I got the preflight"

2. Driving on a daily basis to/from the airport turns it into a 9 to 5 job. traffic, commute, park the car, unpark the car, shuttle van, gas, etc.

3. Four of five back to back one day trips is arguably "more labor intensive" than just a regular four day. Hop in the plane, come back 4 days later, done.

etc etc

I think 3 days are perfect, especially if you leave late on Day-1 (basically have all that morning and some of the after noon off). Those are really just 2.5 day trips


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