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Originally Posted by TadKrusty
(Post 3881255)
Why buy spirit with its negative view by the traveling public when you can hire their pilots and get everything else once they liquidate. I'm sure part of the company will be bought off by F9 or the likes.. but realistically, the parts are worth more than than the sum of the whole.. I just don't see a legacy or even SWA wanting NK as a whole. Obviously I do not make any decisions greater than, "start two or single engine taxi?"
Contrary to your thesis Spirit ONLY has value as a package. The parts are worth nothing. You buy the package and you get a plug and play HQ/training facility, a fleet of fairly new airbuses at much cheaper lease rates than current market. Some of which are being paid for by P&W to help ease your transition into the new jets. You get a portion of the fleet that’s “owned” and leveraged but with a little equity in them. Some LGA slots, half of the FLL market. It all comes with some debt and some stake holders wishing to get their money back, and next to zero stock that you’d normally have to pay a major premium for. You sell it in pieces and it all goes on the open market at much higher cost but the current owners don’t get much payback bc none of it has equity and the jets go back to the lessors. Their motivation to sell for parts would be next to nil and a buyer that wants jets won’t get any discount waiting for pieces when they can inherit spirits current lease rates which are much cheaper |
Originally Posted by Noisecanceller
(Post 3881598)
Im pretty sure you don’t understand that there are no pieces to sell. Everything we “have” has near zero equity and is all heavily leveraged. You sell those pieces and you get a couple bucks. Most of the fleet is leased so if you liquidate those jets go back to the lessor and released on the open market at much much higher rates than what spirit is currently paying. Order book goes back to Airbus to put on the open market in whatever delivery schedule they want to negotiate with new buyers.
Contrary to your thesis Spirit ONLY has value as a package. The parts are worth nothing. You buy the package and you get a plug and play HQ/training facility, a fleet of fairly new airbuses at much cheaper lease rates than current market. Some of which are being paid for by P&W to help ease your transition into the new jets. You get a portion of the fleet that’s “owned” and leveraged but with a little equity in them. Some LGA slots, half of the FLL market. It all comes with some debt and some stake holders wishing to get their money back, and next to zero stock that you’d normally have to pay a major premium for. You sell it in pieces and it all goes on the open market at much higher cost but the current owners don’t get much payback bc none of it has equity and the jets go back to the lessors. Their motivation to sell for parts would be next to nil and a buyer that wants jets won’t get any discount waiting for pieces when they can inherit spirits current lease rates which are much cheaper |
Any updates on attrition numbers this month so far?
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Originally Posted by gradywhite27
(Post 3883440)
Any updates on attrition numbers this month so far?
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3883472)
Was told it’s over 80 already as of last week.
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Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
(Post 3883472)
Was told it’s over 80 already as of last week.
It would be nice if this helps our furloughed brothers and sisters get recalled sooner rather than later ! Any ideas when those recalled pilots are expected to be recalled ? seems like with attirition this high if they dont sell more aircraft spirit will need to start new hires again |
Originally Posted by Alexjones
(Post 3883498)
81 Soon ...
It would be nice if this helps our furloughed brothers and sisters get recalled sooner rather than later ! Any ideas when those recalled pilots are expected to be recalled ? seems like with attirition this high if they dont sell more aircraft spirit will need to start new hires again |
Originally Posted by TheRubberDucky
(Post 3883524)
More aircraft are.expdcted to be parked over the summer for NEO issues so this may just keep there from being furlough again.
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Originally Posted by sioux8ships
(Post 3883560)
Source of this great news and details please?
This has always been part of the reason for the original furlough. The statement is not referring to additional and doesn’t really make sense. Right now x amount of aircraft are parked. The average amount will be increasing through 2025. Nothing has changed. The question is, what sort of attrition did those that make the plan moving forward, factor into the amount needed to furlough. |
Originally Posted by afterburn81
(Post 3883576)
This has always been part of the reason for the original furlough. The statement is not referring to additional and doesn’t really make sense. Right now x amount of aircraft are parked. The average amount will be increasing through 2025. Nothing has changed.
The question is, what sort of attrition did those that make the plan moving forward, factor into the amount needed to furlough. |
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