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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:13 AM
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Frontier going for the throat.

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FLL-BWI,IAH,DTW,CLT,DFW
DTW-CLT,CUN,MIA,IAH,MSY,FLL
BWI-CUN,IAH,FLL,MSY
IAH-FLL,GUA,MSY,PHL,SAL,SAP


granted this is just a lot of overlay on legacy hubs but it’s also heavy spirit overlay.

They already overlap on 35% of routes and this won’t help that number for a merger.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Frontier going for the throat.

adding

FLL-BWI,IAH,DTW,CLT,DFW
DTW-CLT,CUN,MIA,IAH,MSY,FLL
BWI-CUN,IAH,FLL,MSY
IAH-FLL,GUA,MSY,PHL,SAL,SAP


granted this is just a lot of overlay on legacy hubs but it’s also heavy spirit overlay.

They already overlap on 38% of routes and this won’t help that number for a merger.
apparently Franks’s biz jet has been sighted in FLL yesterday and is still there.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
apparently Franks’s biz jet has been sighted in FLL yesterday and is still there.
Probably negotiating with the county/airport authority for Spirit’s gates when the doors eventually close. He wants first dibs
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Old 08-26-2025 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by checkgear
Probably negotiating with the county/airport authority for Spirit’s gates when the doors eventually close. He wants first dibs
Bingo.

And due to their popularity as a vacation destination they likely want Low Fares Done Right vs DL and UA fares at their airport.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
Frontier going for the throat.

adding

FLL-BWI,IAH,DTW,CLT,DFW
DTW-CLT,CUN,MIA,IAH,MSY,FLL
BWI-CUN,IAH,FLL,MSY
IAH-FLL,GUA,MSY,PHL,SAL,SAP


granted this is just a lot of overlay on legacy hubs but it’s also heavy spirit overlay.

They already overlap on 35% of routes and this won’t help that number for a merger.
If anything this proves Frontier is absolutely not interested in a merger.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 10:23 AM
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If anything this proves Frontier is absolutely not interested in a merger.

Its NOT going to be a "merger". Its going to be a bankruptcy acquisition. 363 asset sale under the chapt 11 bankruptcy code. Franke clearly is in FLL to close the deal... under this acquisition Franke can pick which assets he wants to keep or sell. He wants routes/slots, gates, planes. This is very similar to the offer early this year (363 sale) I expect NK to announce a bankruptcy under chapt 11 with an acquisition by F9. Overlapping doesnt mean SQUAT in this type of bankruptcy acquisition. An agreement has clearly been reached with Bill and the Bond Holders... NK operations goes away, will cease operations, but employees such as Pilots, FA's, Mechanics will merge.

So, a review for the ignorant(which seems to be 99% of you) acquisition of some of the assets, merge of the employees. a JCBA will be worked on once deal closes...Unions still have legal grounds under the bankruptcy code.. A judge still would be required to gut the Spirit CBA... my guess is a judge wont touch it knowing a JCBA is around the corner and would prefer to let the company and unions settle it and do their negotiations.

Im guessing Franke wants the NEO's, agreed to sell all the CEO's and other assets and some stock and cash to please the Bond holders(we'll see when merger agreement goes public). Spirit has about 120 NEO's... he will take ownership of those basically overnight. Big growth for the new F9... Thats what's happening here and it sounds like a deal is pretty much done. Franke is 88yrs old, he aint flying across the country to talk about gate space LOL

Bill Franke got his deal after more than a decade... did yall think Bill would just go away and give up?!! LOL.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
They already overlap on 35% of routes and this won’t help that number for a merger.
Failing enterprises are a special carveout under anti-trust law. Many or all of the factors that sunk NK/JB would not apply in this circumstance.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by StopBeingWhimps
Its NOT going to be a "merger". Its going to be a bankruptcy acquisition. 363 asset sale under the chapt 11 bankruptcy code. Franke clearly is in FLL to close the deal... under this acquisition Franke can pick which assets he wants to keep or sell. He wants routes/slots, gates, planes. This is very similar to the offer early this year (363 sale) I expect NK to announce a bankruptcy under chapt 11 with an acquisition by F9. Overlapping doesnt mean SQUAT in this type of bankruptcy acquisition. An agreement has clearly been reached with Bill and the Bond Holders... NK operations goes away, will cease operations, but employees such as Pilots, FA's, Mechanics will merge.

So, a review for the ignorant(which seems to be 99% of you) acquisition of some of the assets, merge of the employees. a JCBA will be worked on once deal closes...Unions still have legal grounds under the bankruptcy code.. A judge still would be required to gut the Spirit CBA... my guess is a judge wont touch it knowing a JCBA is around the corner and would prefer to let the company and unions settle it and do their negotiations.

Im guessing Franke wants the NEO's, agreed to sell all the CEO's and other assets and some stock and cash to please the Bond holders(we'll see when merger agreement goes public). Spirit has about 120 NEO's... he will take ownership of those basically overnight. Big growth for the new F9... Thats what's happening here and it sounds like a deal is pretty much done. Franke is 88yrs old, he aint flying across the country to talk about gate space LOL

Bill Franke got his deal after more than a decade... did yall think Bill would just go away and give up?!! LOL.
of course. Obviously.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StopBeingWhimps
Its NOT going to be a "merger". Its going to be a bankruptcy acquisition. 363 asset sale under the chapt 11 bankruptcy code. Franke clearly is in FLL to close the deal... under this acquisition Franke can pick which assets he wants to keep or sell. He wants routes/slots, gates, planes. This is very similar to the offer early this year (363 sale) I expect NK to announce a bankruptcy under chapt 11 with an acquisition by F9. Overlapping doesnt mean SQUAT in this type of bankruptcy acquisition. An agreement has clearly been reached with Bill and the Bond Holders... NK operations goes away, will cease operations, but employees such as Pilots, FA's, Mechanics will merge.

So, a review for the ignorant(which seems to be 99% of you) acquisition of some of the assets, merge of the employees. a JCBA will be worked on once deal closes...Unions still have legal grounds under the bankruptcy code.. A judge still would be required to gut the Spirit CBA... my guess is a judge wont touch it knowing a JCBA is around the corner and would prefer to let the company and unions settle it and do their negotiations.

Im guessing Franke wants the NEO's, agreed to sell all the CEO's and other assets and some stock and cash to please the Bond holders(we'll see when merger agreement goes public). Spirit has about 120 NEO's... he will take ownership of those basically overnight. Big growth for the new F9... Thats what's happening here and it sounds like a deal is pretty much done. Franke is 88yrs old, he aint flying across the country to talk about gate space LOL

Bill Franke got his deal after more than a decade... did yall think Bill would just go away and give up?!! LOL.
Jokes on you, he just wanted a few high-roller nights at the Hard Rock.
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Old 08-26-2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by StopBeingWhimps
Its NOT going to be a "merger". Its going to be a bankruptcy acquisition. 363 asset sale under the chapt 11 bankruptcy code. Franke clearly is in FLL to close the deal... under this acquisition Franke can pick which assets he wants to keep or sell. He wants routes/slots, gates, planes. This is very similar to the offer early this year (363 sale) I expect NK to announce a bankruptcy under chapt 11 with an acquisition by F9. Overlapping doesnt mean SQUAT in this type of bankruptcy acquisition. An agreement has clearly been reached with Bill and the Bond Holders... NK operations goes away, will cease operations, but employees such as Pilots, FA's, Mechanics will merge.

So, a review for the ignorant(which seems to be 99% of you) acquisition of some of the assets, merge of the employees. a JCBA will be worked on once deal closes...Unions still have legal grounds under the bankruptcy code.. A judge still would be required to gut the Spirit CBA... my guess is a judge wont touch it knowing a JCBA is around the corner and would prefer to let the company and unions settle it and do their negotiations.

Im guessing Franke wants the NEO's, agreed to sell all the CEO's and other assets and some stock and cash to please the Bond holders(we'll see when merger agreement goes public). Spirit has about 120 NEO's... he will take ownership of those basically overnight. Big growth for the new F9... Thats what's happening here and it sounds like a deal is pretty much done. Franke is 88yrs old, he aint flying across the country to talk about gate space LOL

Bill Franke got his deal after more than a decade... did yall think Bill would just go away and give up?!! LOL.
I can see all of this happening.

when does the furlough / downgrade vacancy come out? Got to be soon.

are they going to allow everyone to take a furlough? Or just FO’s?

Could be telling about their long term / short term plans…
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