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Old 09-03-2025 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
I mean you could just apply like myself and hundreds of other Former NK Pilots. Unfortunately you, nor I are owed jack sh*t in this ridiculous industry.
That's the dilemma in this business, stay or go. You're always rolling the dice, to some degree, either way.

I got it right once or twice, but got it wrong once too.
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Old 09-03-2025 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
Vast majority of spirit's debt is in leases. Reject the ones that are sitting stagnant and go from there. Hell AerCap already did half the work for them.
None of Spirit's debt is in leases.
Leases are liabilities not debt.
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Old 09-03-2025 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That's the dilemma in this business, stay or go. You're always rolling the dice, to some degree, either way.

I got it right once or twice, but got it wrong once too.
On company 5. #1 doesn't really count, was not planning on staying, not a career place, they went bust a few times, and finally called it quits last year. #2+3 went TU half a year after I left, #3 laid me off a week before my class date at #4 (NK) so that worked out... think I left NK too late, if you want to go, go yesterday. Hindsight is 5 years ago (2020)
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Old 09-03-2025 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by golf59
None of Spirit's debt is in leases.
Leases are liabilities not debt.
The way they are accounted for is essentially the same nowadays
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Old 09-03-2025 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Name User
The way they are accounted for is essentially the same nowadays
No. It isnt.
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Old 09-03-2025 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by golf59
No. It isnt.
Yeah debt is something you have to pay back, unless you default or go BK.

Leases are fundamentally different, because if you stop paying the lessor still owns the asset and can come and get it, even more so than say a bank lien.

A BK court might put a stay on repossession for a *very* brief period, but a BK court cannot force the lessor to let you keep their stuff unless you're making payments they are happy with.

A leased asset isn't collateral to a loan, it's literally a rental. The lessee never had any sort of ownership stake or title.
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Old 09-03-2025 | 10:24 AM
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RIP to the west coast flying
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Old 09-03-2025 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
RIP to the west coast flying
Less overlap for the Alaska merger.
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Old 09-03-2025 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SSlow
RIP to the west coast flying
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Old 09-03-2025 | 11:49 AM
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Displacing 102 LAS Captains and 55 LAS FO's
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