He’s not wrong. The near future doesn’t look great. Let’s just say that hiring in the fall rumor, isn’t going to turn out to be true. Quite the opposite actually.

 

I don't work for NK any longer but have heard the same from friends at NK still, in the positions that have been correct before. You have the same info, as we have heard similar things in the past. Furloughs and base closures is the word.

Before the usual suspects call this "baiting" or "oh you left and are coming back to start issues.." Not even close.

IF ANYONE is even on the fence with leaving, get an application in and at least get it wet in the water while this sorts out. Contrary to what people want to believe, just as before the info was out here for reduction bids and furloughs, it's here again.

69fastback has called every furlough, and thats what he is referring to, same as I have heard. Remember it doesn't hurt to at least apply and get a jumpstart if this goes as bad as it's looking here very soon.

 

I keep reading where people say that airlines like Spirit, Jetblue, Frontier, etc need "scale" to be competitive. United only has a 17% market share. How are they "growing too fast"? Aren't they just trying to achieve more scale? Domestically United is only the 4th largest airline. The answer for competition is scale, but apparently not if United wants more domestic market share?

When a business starts to approach diseconomies of scale you see declining marginal profits. Right now United isn't seeing that. Proof was leading 1st quarter profit in a quarter United is historically unprofitable.

 

It’s a fair warning I definitely wouldn’t consider this baiting anyone !

Any Pilot who takes a step back knows deep down it’s coming again maybe they don’t want to believe it BUT the numbers speak for themselves.

I wouldn’t want to be Newark based right now ! Best of luck everyone

 

Man the amount of formers that keep coming back here to spout doom and gloom is really getting old. Like a high school girl that can't get over an ex. You left, move on already.

 

No former here. People can accept it, or not, but it’s about to get worse, and it most likely won’t get better. Ever.

 

Not aware of this? I know UA replaced RJs with mainline jets on multiple routes to add more capacity to them

 

United didn't "cut capacity". Opposite.

United ended 2022 with 248 Billion available seat miles.

United ended 2024 with 311 Billion available seats miles.

This is 63 Billion more available seat miles and an increase of 25% in 2 years. It like United adding all of Spirit plus some of Frontier in only 2 years. (Spirit 50B Frontier 40B)

A lot are new planes, but a lot are upgauging of planes like parking RJs and replacing A-319s with A-321 NEOs.

What's incredible is this includes that United has been parking older planes, and some deliveries are replacements, but also much larger (200 seat 321NEO replacing 126 seat A-319)

At this rate United could have 470B+ of available seat miles by the end of 2029, which would be like adding all of Spirit, Frontier and Jetblue in the next 5 years, not counting the 2022 to 2024 growth as well.

This could accelerate as Boeing has said they will deliver 2 787s a month to United starting in January 2026 and 3 a month starting some time in 2027 now that the supply chain is restored.

 

Then why are you still here? Stop the whining and move on then.

Update: Oh you are the moron that said there were going to be "1,000 displacements" a year ago lmao you carry on sir.

 

I knew someone smarter than me would chime in