Hard sell when 5 turns at 7:30 credit equals
more, and less getting jacked around with.

our time is wasted here quite often unless you like sitting in hotels for 2359

 

Oh we definitely need a merger, I just don't think it is going to be F9.

It can't be, the government made their position clear on that last year.

 

This is true. It will take 5 years to get 2500 behind at a legacy. This is why after 2021, pilots were upgrading to 757 captain in less than 2 years. That was 5000 pilots or 10–15 years of seniority in traditional hiring. Largest hiring wave in history, but it’s over now. Things move slowly again.

 

If management made the airline smaller by selling off older A320 CEO aircraft as the newer NEO aircraft come back from engine inspections and then Spirit becomes an airline of about 150 aircraft could that be a starting point to being a more stable airline or a viable alternative to either a merger or the doors closing?

 

It's not a viable path to anywhere. The company liquidates what few assets it has for cash that it then burns through. The debt increases while the amount of assets with which to generate non-existent profit declines. The government has made its position clear. It desires a concentrated industry of a few titans - the existence of airlines like Spirit, Frontier, JetBlue etc are undesirable because they keep profits low. Consumer welfare isn't the concern, although it is used as the fig leaf. The critical issue is the government wants companies big enough to not need constant bail-outs/bail-ins.

Accept reality and get hired yesterday to a Big 3 legacy. Southwest isn't even safe - look at what is happening over there. If Southwest was valued by the government, they wouldn't have allowed it to get raided by private equity. That JetBlue is going to get the Icahn treatment, and Spirit is now owned by bondholders looking to liquidate, is all gravy to the government.

Guys at Spirit talking about negotiating positions for a new contract are nuts. There will not be a contract because there will not be a company. Extract as much value as you can before the company shuts down in a year or two.

 

Just exactly how are you so privey to all of this inside info that may or may not exist? Some very
confident claims right there. I’ve been around these places long enough to know that according to APC, the B6 merger was a done deal and the judge was most certainly in coo hoots with corrupt senators yadie yada.

Your statements stink of someone that wants another job somewhere else and has no more interview opportunities. Just hoping the ship burns down so you can tell everyone your lack of career progression is plainly due to your employers failure. That or you’ve already got a job somewhere else but are scared ****less of your choice to leave. Which is it?

 

The government changes their position every administration.

The judges ruling, to me, read as if he wanted Frontier to immediately begin the merge process again. Might as well have said, “Frontier, this one’s for you.”

 

The insane part is Frontier has tried 3 times (of record) to buy Spirit; once pre JBLU and 2x after. If NK management would just stop with the games, it would have been done already. The siren song of JBLU cost them so much, NK and F9 would be finishing up SLI and JCBA, and the NK shareholders would have gotten paid without the BK and having their equity stripped from them.

 

Dont remind me

 

lol remember that one time you posted your theory about the aircraft sales falling through and that was evidence of how you knew what was coming? I do!